Swashies get Whirlwind?!

Rataxes · 01-01-2003, 09:23 PM

I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere, but alas. When I started a Swashie and used CLUA to level him up and analyse his progress, I was stunned when I saw the Whirlwind Icon among the HLA's when he got to lvl 24, I could even re-select it at every new level up.

Now, maybe this is a bug, or a hidden bonus from one of the mods I have installed, I assume it is not supposed to be there since it isn't mentioned on any site or in any FAQ or manual. But I think it does make sense after all. A Swashbuckler is really a fighter at heart and he can't really fight any other way than face-to-face, which of course he would not be able to do very well at all with the standard Thief APR. I guess he simply needs the Whirlwind attack to be able to survive in the latter stages. Still seems unbelievably powerful, even though I get a pretty hefty combat penalty with it, it's 10 APR and can be combined with Time Stop Trap. And add to that his awesome AC, THAC0 and Damage bonuses. What could a standard fighter possibly have to challenge this guy? Maybe slightly more life but the Swashie makes up for it by having way superior AC and Magic Resistance.

[ 01-01-2003, 09:25 PM: Message edited by: Rataxes ]

Alson · 01-02-2003, 01:20 AM

Yep, Swashies get Whirlwind attack - because they can't get Assassinate.

It's not due to a mod - it was in the original game, too. They won't get Greater Whirlwind, but the regular Whirlwind still makes them melee monsters.

shadowhound · 01-02-2003, 05:06 AM

Swashies, the first type of thief I beat the game with [img]smile.gif[/img] they are so cool.

Dundee Slaytern · 01-03-2003, 01:40 AM

It is mentioned in the ToB manual. Page 16.

Rataxes · 01-03-2003, 08:17 AM

Oh, true. The manual does mention it [img]smile.gif[/img] Though not the most obvious place I must say...

rhapsody407 · 01-03-2003, 11:55 AM

is WW only in ToB? haven't experienced it within SoA (though i've never played as a swashbuckeler)

Bardan the Slayer · 01-03-2003, 04:22 PM

WW is a High Level ability that is ToB-only. Without ToB installed, you won't see it.

01-01-2003, 09:23 PM	#1
Rataxes Symbol of Cyric Join Date: November 17, 2002 Location: Sweden Age: 39 Posts: 1,359	I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere, but alas. When I started a Swashie and used CLUA to level him up and analyse his progress, I was stunned when I saw the Whirlwind Icon among the HLA's when he got to lvl 24, I could even re-select it at every new level up. Now, maybe this is a bug, or a hidden bonus from one of the mods I have installed, I assume it is not supposed to be there since it isn't mentioned on any site or in any FAQ or manual. But I think it does make sense after all. A Swashbuckler is really a fighter at heart and he can't really fight any other way than face-to-face, which of course he would not be able to do very well at all with the standard Thief APR. I guess he simply needs the Whirlwind attack to be able to survive in the latter stages. Still seems unbelievably powerful, even though I get a pretty hefty combat penalty with it, it's 10 APR and can be combined with Time Stop Trap. And add to that his awesome AC, THAC0 and Damage bonuses. What could a standard fighter possibly have to challenge this guy? Maybe slightly more life but the Swashie makes up for it by having way superior AC and Magic Resistance. [ 01-01-2003, 09:25 PM: Message edited by: Rataxes ] __________________ [img]\"http://atlas.walagata.com/w/rataxes/ymca3.jpg\" alt=\" - \" /><br />I want <b>YOU!</b>

01-02-2003, 05:06 AM	#3
shadowhound Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: November 24, 2001 Location: Australia Age: 39 Posts: 3,281	Swashies, the first type of thief I beat the game with [img]smile.gif[/img] they are so cool. __________________ Carpe Noctem: Ph’nglui mglw’nafh cthulhu r’lyeh wgah’nagl fhtagn.

01-03-2003, 08:17 AM	#5
Rataxes Symbol of Cyric Join Date: November 17, 2002 Location: Sweden Age: 39 Posts: 1,359	Oh, true. The manual does mention it [img]smile.gif[/img] Though not the most obvious place I must say... __________________ [img]\"http://atlas.walagata.com/w/rataxes/ymca3.jpg\" alt=\" - \" /><br />I want <b>YOU!</b>

01-03-2003, 04:22 PM	#7
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01-02-2003, 01:20 AM	#2
Alson Galvatron Join Date: December 14, 2001 Location: Israel Age: 38 Posts: 2,187	Yep, Swashies get Whirlwind attack - because they can't get Assassinate. It's not due to a mod - it was in the original game, too. They won't get Greater Whirlwind, but the regular Whirlwind still makes them melee monsters.

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