question about bards

[Harkoliar]

im thinking of getting a blade... now what stat do i increase in regards to attaining the maximum lvl 6 spells.. is it intellegence or charisma??

[T-D-C]

Bards are Charisma based. Same as Sorcs.

[Harkoliar]

ah, alright [img]smile.gif[/img] . i havent used a blade yet. im planning to make a game with my blade, and a wildmage. [img]smile.gif[/img] . that would be cool indeed.

edit:

im planning to get a bard who will dual wield long swords

armor- suggestions?? crimson chain or bladesinger's chain or Aslyferund Elven Chain +5 (tob)

long swords-
on-hand- ras, daystar(for undead), blackrazor, flame tongue
offhand- dragonslayer, Adjatha the Drinker, blackrazor (im still thinking about this one)

for long range- throwing dagger firetooth

helm- ?? is it possible??
gauntlets/gloves- weapon expertise or gauntlets of dex or gauntlet of ogre power or wonderous gloves
amulet- amulet of power of course [img]smile.gif[/img] (amulet of shield at the start if possible)
boots- boots of speed (will this affect his offensive spin ability?)
belt- girdles of str (any) or belf of inertial barrier (thinking about this one since i may be able to case protection from magic against horror writing at a lvl 6 spell)

what are the good items a bard can use? any good harp or bardic item suggestions out there?

[ 08-10-2004, 03:51 AM: Message edited by: Harkoliar ]

[SixOfSpades]

Originally posted by T-D-C: Bards are Charisma based. Same as Sorcs.

No. Almost nothing is based on Charisma. Bards scribe and cast spells just like a Mage, and they need Intelligence to do it.

With that said, however, nobody actually needs Intelligence at all--not even Sorcerers, Bards, or Mages.

[Stratos]

In 2nd Edition DnD, Bards have a minimum requirement of 13 in intelligence, but that's also all you need to be able to cast level 6 spells. Higher INT score will allow you to scribe more spells into your spellbook, and you have a higher chance of succeeding doing so (if you play on the higher difficulties.)

The charisma thing for spellcasting for Bards are a 3rd Edition rule.

[Xen]

[quote]Originally posted by SixOfSpades:

Originally posted by T-D-C: [qb] With that said, however, nobody actually needs Intelligence at all--not even Sorcerers, Bards, or Mages.

Well Mages do (at least 9) to read scrolls. Sorcerer`s on the other really don`t need it becuase they don`t "learn" new spells from scrolls. They just know how to use them.

[Elhardo]

blades can't wear helms, i dont rekon they can use ranged either, skald is better in my opinion cause i never use lockpick, and his bard song gets better...however the offensive and defensive spin is handy in a pickle, i gave my blade a katana and called him......blade....made him black as well, and got him in shadow dagon armour...all he needed was the sunnies

[Neo the Warrior Cat]

Originally posted by Elhardo: blades can't wear helms, i dont rekon they can use ranged either, skald is better in my opinion cause i never use lockpick, and his bard song gets better...

Blades can use ranged weapons. And bards don't picklocks, they pick-pockets .

[Harkoliar]

ah well.. thanks for tips!

btw, i havent tried a bard all the way to TOB so do you guys know what special abilities he gets from it?

[the new JR Jansen]

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I'm playing through TOB currently with a bard. They get all the rogue skills such as 'use any item', 'set snares' and 'scrribe scrolls' aswell as two others namely 'enhanced bard song' and 'magical flute'.