hmmm, I didn't really mind the avatar, and I think all newbies should have to go through it
but as for the 4 hammers, perhps you should all discuss it with z, maybe he might give you a ribbon or somthing when you reach a certain number of post?
did not finish my post :/ got distracted....
[ 09-16-2004, 09:24 AM: Message edited by: Stormymystic ]