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Originally posted by Nachtrafe: It's not about bitterness. It's about follow-through. If the US' 'allies' had allowed President Bush to finish what he'd started in Desert Storm, Saddam Hussien and his Biological, Chemical, and (possibly) Nuclear weapons wouldn't be an issue right now.

Excuse me - last time I checked it was Bush Sr. who made the descision to end the land-war after 100 hours himself - against the advice of some of his advisors.

If the US' 'allies' had the intelligence to stop hamstringing Isreal, and the intestinal fortitude to live with the consequences, instead of whining about them, then the Palestinian threat wouldn't even exist.

So the Israeli are always right and the Pakestinians are always wrong. I'm sorry Nachtrafe, but the real world isn't black and white like that. And I don't recall your 'allies' doing anything to hamstring Israel, after all they do pretty much whatever they like (even ignoring Bush Jr. when he demanded the withdrawal of their troops after the fighting in Jenin)

If the US' 'allies' weren't such a pack of whining, liberal, feel-good-politic, panty-waists who actually got up off their collective asses and actually *DID* something about the things they constantly whine about, then the world really *would* be a better place.

Yes, lets throw some bomb. j/k Actually I would like to find solutions that (in the instance of the Israeli/Palestinians-conflict) both sides can live with.

So, I say again, it's not about bitterness. It's about anger! Anger at the politics of appeasement, anger at wishy-washyness, anger at cowardice.

And 'we' can't understand our American 'allies'. With their politics of aggresion, narrowmindedness and bullying-tactics (a bit strong perhaps, but I tried for the opposite of your ridiculous statements).

Our dear European 'Allies'(with a singular exception...and the British still aren't fully on-board) are so happy to enjoy the benefits of our money, our culture, our fashions, and our aid, but, when the chips are down, and there's real work to be done...well, then all you hear is the sound of crickets and cowards.

How exatly is it that 'we' get benefit of your money (are we still talking about the Marshall-plan, culture ( [img]graemlins/nono.gif[/img] ), fashion ( [img]graemlins/reallyroll.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/wow.gif[/img] ) and aid. At every engagement that USA have engaged in since the fall of Communism, European troops have fought along side American - For instance in Afganistan where Danish soldier fought and died. But I can tell you that it is attitudes like yours that will make it harder to gather support in the future.