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Originally posted by Fljotsdale:
Moridin?
About your thought that Greenpeace should set up rival corporations to produce 'green' electricity etc...
That would really be a waste of effort and money, don't you think? Much more sensible to push those with the facilities and the know-how to change their production methods. Greenpeace is eminently realistic, you know! They do not look for 'pie in the sky' but workable alternatives.
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To back up my point, did you see that GreenPeace installed a wind turbine in the North Sea? Perhaps it was erected to do nothing more than prevent oil drilling in that region, but if they erected one why couldn't they erect more?
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Without the activities of Greenpeace and Friends of the Earth and similar caring environmental bodies you we would have little idea of what goverments and corporations were doing and they would have free reign.
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My point is that these organizations do not relay all the facts...only those that make the companies look like 'big pollution, don't care a lick about the environment' overlords.
Some facts about ExxonMobil:
*They spend $120M annualy on R&D related to Environment, Health & Safety
*They have planted over 13M trees in England through their Trees of Time and Place campaign.
*They fund environmental research programs at MIT, Carnegie-Mellon, Stanford Energy Modeling Forum, Marine Biology Laboratory, Bermuda's Biological Station of Research, IEA's Greenhouse Gas R&D program
*They spent $12M last year on research related to fuel cells, advanced internal combustion engines, and enhanced greenhouse gas seperation
*They have a joint venture with Toyota to develop an improved automotive system using fuel cells.
*They are a member of the California Fuel Cell Partnership which demonstrates fuel cell vehicles in CA and researchs the paths to commercialization of hybrid cars
You cannot expect these companies to change over night. It is unrealistic. They are making changes, but they take time. Steve Sawyer (the head of the Greenpeace protest in England) said in an interview "We have to shut this company down"...what does he expect this to accomplish?
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