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LennonCook · 10-30-2004, 06:42 PM

Beaumanoir (or however you spell that), trust me, Norton is not enough. IE's security flaws can often bypass anti virus and firewall (mostly because of ActiveX, the "Security Zones", and the fact that IE == Windows Explorer == Windows Messenger == Outlook Express == Windows Media Player (!) == bloat). That is not a good thing. And then there's all the spyware, and have you ever been annoyed by a popup? Thought so. And then there's IE's lack of standards compliance... which basically leads to alot of poorly coded sites.

Harkoliar, hackers don't target IE because it's common. Or, atleast, this isn't what contributes to insecurity. As this arcticle points out, if that were true, why is Microsoft IIS a more common target than Apache, which is the most popular web server? No, the target comes for two reasons: 1) It's easy to target due to all of it's security holes, and Microsoft's poor turnover time when they're discovered (one that was rated "Critical" reportedly took 7 MONTHS for MS to fix!); and 2) Because it's Microsoft. Alot of people don't like Microsoft, and so they try to do everything they can to topple Fortress Windows. A good cause (enlighten people), but a bad way of going about it...

Firebird wasn't trademarked, I don't think. It's the name of an open source DBMS (available at SourceForge). So Mozilla changed the browser's name to help prevent confusion. It had another name before that, Phoenix, which was changed for legalities.

Variol, the reason Netscape, Mozilla, and Firefox look similar is very simple: they run on the same layout engine, called Gecko. The mozilla project was started by Netscape in 1997, then moved to open source a few years ago, created Gecko, released Mozilla. They eventually decided to split the bloated beast into separate components, which is what Firefox, Camino, Thunderbird, and Sunbird are. Meanwhile, Netscape was redeveloped on Gecko, and because Netscape 6. Also, Nautilus, Epiphany, Konquerer, K-Meleon, and a few others have been developed on Gecko (although Konquerer I believe can render on either Gecko or KHTML). The benefit of Firefox over Netscape is quite simple: Netscape is owned by AOL Time Warner, who like to plug or even integrate alot of their other products (say, AIM) into the browser. They also like to get some form of money for it, and they do that with the spyware in it...

Also, the people at MozillaZine have a very good way of getting around the confusion of Mozilla vs Firefox (vs Camino): Mozilla is usually called "Mozilla Suite", "the Suite", or its developement name "Seamonkey".

10-30-2004, 06:42 PM	#22
LennonCook Jack Burton Join Date: November 10, 2001 Location: Bathurst & Orange, in constant flux Age: 37 Posts: 5,452	Beaumanoir (or however you spell that), trust me, Norton is not enough. IE's security flaws can often bypass anti virus and firewall (mostly because of ActiveX, the "Security Zones", and the fact that IE == Windows Explorer == Windows Messenger == Outlook Express == Windows Media Player (!) == bloat). That is not a good thing. And then there's all the spyware, and have you ever been annoyed by a popup? Thought so. And then there's IE's lack of standards compliance... which basically leads to alot of poorly coded sites. Harkoliar, hackers don't target IE because it's common. Or, atleast, this isn't what contributes to insecurity. As this arcticle points out, if that were true, why is Microsoft IIS a more common target than Apache, which is the most popular web server? No, the target comes for two reasons: 1) It's easy to target due to all of it's security holes, and Microsoft's poor turnover time when they're discovered (one that was rated "Critical" reportedly took 7 MONTHS for MS to fix!); and 2) Because it's Microsoft. Alot of people don't like Microsoft, and so they try to do everything they can to topple Fortress Windows. A good cause (enlighten people), but a bad way of going about it... Firebird wasn't trademarked, I don't think. It's the name of an open source DBMS (available at SourceForge). So Mozilla changed the browser's name to help prevent confusion. It had another name before that, Phoenix, which was changed for legalities. Variol, the reason Netscape, Mozilla, and Firefox look similar is very simple: they run on the same layout engine, called Gecko. The mozilla project was started by Netscape in 1997, then moved to open source a few years ago, created Gecko, released Mozilla. They eventually decided to split the bloated beast into separate components, which is what Firefox, Camino, Thunderbird, and Sunbird are. Meanwhile, Netscape was redeveloped on Gecko, and because Netscape 6. Also, Nautilus, Epiphany, Konquerer, K-Meleon, and a few others have been developed on Gecko (although Konquerer I believe can render on either Gecko or KHTML). The benefit of Firefox over Netscape is quite simple: Netscape is owned by AOL Time Warner, who like to plug or even integrate alot of their other products (say, AIM) into the browser. They also like to get some form of money for it, and they do that with the spyware in it... Also, the people at MozillaZine have a very good way of getting around the confusion of Mozilla vs Firefox (vs Camino): Mozilla is usually called "Mozilla Suite", "the Suite", or its developement name "Seamonkey".