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Originally posted by Oblivion437:
I'm saying there is no difference, man is not more than animal. God need not be the source of morality. Why say a prayer when you can build a hospital? Why pay a priest when you can train more doctors? I see the world through a set of Paranoid, petrified eyes that suffer from the disillusionment from faith in religion, mankind, or any institution. If you can't convince yourself not to kill without outside help, you SHOULD be in prison. I don't need to be told not to kill, for the following reasons:
1-The person didn't do anything to deserve to die that I can assert. 2-If the person did, it's not my business.
3-To hurt someone they must make it personal.
4-I wouldn't kill someone unless I expected I should die myself (A common Western way of thinking, and arbitrated as 'original' religious ideal) and thus my crimes would pay for themselves, or rather, they don't. Men murder children, and die, and get away with it, one of the hardest things about being an Atheist is accepting that Child pornographers, rapists, serial killers, terrorists, burglars and other such types don't suffer from absolute punishment. I can't just join a religion to say that they do, it goes against my idea that the only way the human condition shall improve is by human action.
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Man can rise above the animal inside and it doesn't take religion to do it, just an understanding of human emotion as natural reactions to different situations.
God may not be your source of morality but what applies to you personally doesn't need to apply to every to everyone else in order to make the world a better place to live in.
Why would you refuse or deny prayer to those who believe in its power (me) or refuse or deny the religious their leaders if they need counseling or guidance from a religious perspective?
Medicine and religion are not one and the same from different points of view in most religions. You can find people of most all denominations in hospitals around the world at this moment who rely on both doctors and God to help them recover. Who is to say that their recovery doesn't require both?
Morality and religion go far beyond reasons not to kill. They are a way of life that keep people in peace with themselves and the world around them and they do not have to be intertwined in order to maintain inner peace.
The human condition won't improve without human action. It starts with one individual changing themselves and if it takes God to change them, all the more power to the rest of us who see the need for change.
You say "I see the world through a set of Paranoid, petrified eyes that suffer from the disillusionment from faith in religion, mankind, or any institution."
I don't know what to say to that. I hope you feel better soon. [img]smile.gif[/img]