[Dundee Slaytern]

Originally Posted by Lavindathar Well, not much you've asked really. Firstly, if your main is a Prot Warrior, and he isn't even 60 yet, abandon your Warlock and get your Warrior to 70.

My Prot-Warrior is a new alt actually.

Secondly, addons are a must. You just can't play the game properly without them. And the two addons you have requested probably do exist, but as they are completely useless, they might not. If your too high a level, don't do the quest. Check out www.cursegaming.com for the addons. There are many addons which I deem essential - Omen Threatmeter being the main one as a Prot Warrior. Then I think 99% of WoW players have the following addons - Omen Threatmeter (you can see your own threat, and others on a mob. So you can see when to change targets etc or when someone is gonna overaggro) Recount Damage Meter (not essential but nice - shows you damage done, taken, how you died, everything) Atlas + Atlast Loot (shows you what loot drops where, faction rewards, badge rewards. lets you plan your gear). Deadly Boss Mods (required for raiding) - timers for bosses X-perl unitframes(UI mod) - (standard Blizz UI sucks. This lets you move stuff around how you want it. Plus 3d avatars w00t) CTRA (raid assist mod) - needed for raiding SCT (Scrolling Combat Text - awesome) - lets you move the damage txt, and messages, into easier read fonts and better places. Pratt (allows you to modify the text windows) Mob Info (detailed mob information) - shows mob hp etc, what they dropped in past. Titan Bars - quick access to see cash, durability, location, co-ords Auctioneer (if you want to make profit on the Auction House - records all auction house data so you can compare prices this week + 6months ago) BasicMiniMap (for moving your map) - as blizz ui sucks. and its square Big Brother (for seeing whats going on) - shows MD's etc Carbonite (quest mod) - awesome for levelling. Shwos you everything ElkBuffbars (easy to see buffs in a nice bar format. Instead of Blizz's rubbish squares) Gatherer (essential if your a herbalist/miner) - records all previous node data Lightheaded (another good quest mod) - txt version of wowhead comments regarding quests Outfitter (gear swapping mod) - swaps full outfitrs at click of a button ManyItemTooltips (really nice little tooltip mod) - lets you open more than one tooltip at once. awesome for comparing stuff. TipTac (another awesome tooltip mod) - lets you move tooltips Floating Buttons - lets you move minimap buttons. And theres more. Now I know that may seem a lot, but if you want to raid or do instances at 60+ and play to the best you can be, you need the addons. Basic WoW setup just doesn't allow you to do it, Addons are the only way. For example, you might say - why would I need outfitter to change my gear. The instances at 60 change. They aren't like pre 60. And if you dont have these addons, as the tank is, erm, kinda important, you will die lots, causing your group to hate you, and gradually your repuation will just end up in the ground. Say your OTing a boss, the main tank dies. your in DPS gear, with one click of a button you can equip your sword and shield instantly when you change to Defensive Stance. It's all automated. Without it, you have to change to Defensive stance, open the bags and inventory window, then drag your sword and sheild in seperately. This will take 5 seconsd or so, at which point the boss has probably one-shotted you. Now, as a Protection Warrior. I don't know what level you are, so it will differ. As a 70 warrior, you want Stamina. All about le stamina. But also defence rating. 490 makes you crit immune, this is needed to tank. So those are your first two stats. Then there is Dodge/Parry/Block. These are what you want to build up next. Agility and Strength are minor prot stats. No good having high strenght/agi for threat, if you have really low avoidance and mobs land every hit. You'll just die. Out of those addons I listed, download them one at a time, install them one at a time, so you can see what each one does. Each addon takes maybe 2mins to learn once setup. You will thank me later. And sorry for being vauge, in a rush. If you want specific answers, ask a specific question and I'll try to help.

I beg to differ here a little actually. I am not playing WoW for hardcore reasons, but for casual play and fun. Any addons I decide to install, if any, will be to better facilitate my personal enjoyment of the game. Which was why I was quite specific in what kind of mods I wanted. I have no need for mob info, aggro-meters, etc...

I mean, I have reached this far without addons, the game can't possibly be that broken for casual players like me. Oh, and I can swap items when changing stances with one click/button too. Macros do exist, and I am using them quite extensively.

Originally Posted by Memnoch Good to see you enjoying yourself mate! You definitely need to install some mods to be more efficient. Lavi gave some great ones above. The main ones I use are: - QuestHelper - great for helping you with quests. I think this can be set up to show grey quests as well. - X-Perl Frames - just looks prettier (IMO) and helps with group management - Deadly Boss Mods - helps with instances and flag timers for PvP - Omen - helps with instances and raids by showing how much threat you're generating - Recount - helps you statistically analyse your performance in terms of healing, dps, damage taken, etc. - Titan Panel - all round useful by having a little bar at the top and bottom of your screen with useful info - Auctioneer - a must have if you want to maximise your AH performances - Gatherer - if you are mining/herbalist it will make it so much easier by recording where the nodes are - EnemyNaturCastBar - helps you in pvp by showing cooldowns from both your group and enemy players I have a few more but they are more dps-specific. You can get these from www.curse.com. Not sure about this, unfortunately. LOL. My ongoing BG experiences (from level 39 up to 69 I think) are documented below. http://www.ironworksforum.com/forum/...ad.php?t=98153 Basically, I have had the best success in groups that communicate well. How well your faction does seems to depend upon your battlegroup as some battlegroups Horde always do well in AB while others Alliance do well. Take the lead in communicating - eg. in AV ask for buffs/buff people before the start (costs no mana) and keep communicating asking people to call incs to flags, etc. Be prepared to change plans if needed as conditions on the ground are always fluid. Always have 1 or 2 people at each node to call incs and be situationally aware. I love BGs though - once you get the hand of them, they are awesome.

I love them too, warts and all. My record so far is about a loss to every 3 victories or so. Most of the victories are not due to cunning or guile though, but because our side just happened to have bigger sticks than the Alliance.

And yeah, I do "scream" a lot in the BG-channel in an attempt to shove some sense into their thick skulls on what's actually important in CTF and BF-type games. My middle finger doesn't give a damn if you have the highest killcount if we're losing the match.

I don't really have a Prot warrior (I have an Arms/Fury one) but generally Sta is pretty important, depending on your level. What level are you targetting?

All the way to 70.

Enchanting and Engineering are pretty expensive - I have a 300 Enchanter and it cost a fortune to skill him up. What you want is a high level toon farming greens and blues for you to disenchant as disenchanting can make you some decent money. As for Herbalism, get Gatherer as it will really help. It's a bit of a grind though with most of these gathering professions.

My approach to gathering has been one of "C'est la vie". I don't plan on grinding for anything in World of Warcraft as there is far too much to explore and discover for me to waste time grinding for materials. If it comes, so be it. If not, so be it.

LOL I take it you either drowned or ran into a high level mob.

Neither, I just ended up wasting half-an-hour of my life doing nothing but swimming. I went swimming because I thought I could avoid the Alliance this way, only to realise to my horror that the entire coastline was lined by impenetrable mountains.

Dude, you will seriously profit so much more if you use Auctioneer/Auctioneer Pro. At your level, I was making some seriously decent money (50g or so) a week just by devoting 30mins of my time buying undervalued items and resellng them for their true value. Anyway, glad to see you're enjoying yourself mate. Ask for advice from people here - there's a huge amount of knowledge from the guys here.

"C'est la vie" is my motto in this case. ^^;

I am making about 30-50g per session with my main, spending maybe 10-15mins tops at the AH. While Auctioneer may help increase my profits, I am not playing World of Wallstreet here. ^^; Through personal observation and steady recording on pen and paper, I have already identified multiple methods on how to buy low and sell high fast (VERY fast in some case). I won't say which mats are going for too low though, because I am paranoid people might wise up and jack up the prices. ^^;

I will say this much though... on Lightninghoof, the usefulness of potions masks the cheapness of the mats needed to make them.

Also, from time to time, "innocents" will unwittingly sell extremely high-valued items for absurdly low prices. It does not need to happen often, about once a week is enough to fuel a profit that can make one laugh all the way to the bank.

Cheers.