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Old 06-24-2003, 02:11 AM   #12
Grojlach
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Originally posted by John D Harris:


Yes I did read the article, so what? Kids arrested are treated like other kids arrested. Guess what there are bad people everywhere and some abuse thier power, they WILL pay for thier abuse one way or another.
Let's just put it this way: if your children ever get arrested for murder (which is in my opinion many times worse than trying to enter a country illegally), they will most likely get a far better treatment than these children; because that's part of their basic human rights. There is a reason why children have those rights, in the hope they won't end up traumatized, scarred and badly influenced for the rest of their lives, and because they may not be fully aware of the actual implications of what they've done at their age... And you can't compare illegally trying to enter the US because you're fleeing for your life with any *serious* crime, either.
If there was ever going to be a case in which you had to flee for your life from the US, be it war or whatever (not necessarily because you did something wrong), and you and your kids end up in another country, would you like the idea of your children being treated like dirt, having to "mingle" with and being treated as actual serious adult criminals, being physically abused and perhaps even ending up traumatized for the rest of their lives, long before they were even supposed to lose their childlike innocence, effectively taking away some of the happiest years of their youth?

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There's a reason that the arrested are handcuffed. 2-3 weeks ago one of those sweet young thangs killed 2 officers and a 911 phone operator in Fayette, Alabama. While he was being finger printed and the cuffs removed, a stugle insued and the arrested child got one of the officers guns then killed three humans. All the "feelings" and righious indignation won't bring those three lives back or stop the sorrow of the families of the three people killed. So I would like to see the mental gymnastics of how not handcuffing an arrested person can possibly be squared with the if it saves one life logic so prevalant with the "feeling" crowd.
Ah yes, and one out of 5000 "snapping" surely is justification enough to treat the other 4999 as adult criminals. The fact that at the same time they're violating the same human rights agreements from which they expect that the entire world abides by them and which usually sets the "evil" countries apart from the "good" countries hardly matters, er? [img]graemlins/1disgust.gif[/img]

[ 06-24-2003, 02:12 AM: Message edited by: Grojlach ]
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