[Bungleau]

Interesting link, Vulcan Rider. That's another product from the same company that goes at it from the other way -- instead of "stay out of here" it works on "stay in here". I may have to see if that's an option.

WRT real and radio fences (still trying to find that good word for them), I have no interest whatsoever in a real fence. Had one. Hated it. Not going back. [img]graemlins/nono.gif[/img] The differences between a real and radio fence are noted, but we don't view them as an issue here.

Part of the way a dog is trained with these fences is to learn where safety is. So if he goes beyond the fence, he knows that the way to safety is by the house, and he'll head back that way. The PS system has a secondary setting that covers dogs that run beyond the fence; it doesn't stop working, but keeps going, prompting him to go back to safety.

We're not going this alone, either. We're talking with friends, our vet, and our dog trainer to get their perspectives.