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Originally posted by Smeagol II:
[QBWell, can't say I quite agree with the US led war on terror (and remember that it isn't just the US involved in this - us Brits have just sent some more troops in). I just generally don't quite understand why you have to kill mroe people in order to solve the problem. And the irony is that it is unlikely to solve the problem anyway - do you honestly think that we will catch all the members of Al-Quaeda just by bombing innocents in Afghanistan? Remember that quite a lot of the people involved aren't Afghanis or in any way connected to Afghanistan. What are you going to do? Bomb every country that harbours terrorists? Better start by looking at home then in my view, and over here in the UK. Any chance we can start bombing Derry for the Omagh bomb? If we send in enough troops then we are bound to kill the right people eventually.
The terrorists are all over the world, and they don't think of themselves as doing wrong. These are people pushed into a corner fighting in any way they can for an ideal that they see the Western world as trying to destroy. I have the utmost sypmathy for their victims but that does not mean I want to see these people demonised and killed. It won't solve anything and will plunge the world into years of war.
Bottom line - lets all stop talking about our right to kill people, or our right to have revenge, and start talking about how we can get out of the mess we have out ourselves in.[/QB]
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Ill try and address your post top to bottom, (I still need to figure out the quoting thing)
You solve the problem by killing the bastards who indiscrimintaely take life...it removes any posibility for them to do it again.
We are NOT and never have indiscriminantly bombed innocent civilians...the USA more than just about any nation bends over backwards risking their own soldiers to do everything possible to limit what some call callously "Collateral Damage" The bombings that were conducted were targeted at combatents and with very few exceptions that is who was hit.
Can you get all of the Al-queda? probably not, but by being passive to their attacks you invite more attacks, if you smack the enemy down hard you force these kinds of people to find other less dangerous targets...by and large the majority of them would like tolive to see home and hearth again..even if it is a cave in some hill.
You argument about looking at home for the terrorist and bombing there is specious at best. In countries that work WITH the USA and others you don't need to bomb, the FBI and local law enforcement ARE being mobilized to root out the terrorists here so no bombing nesecary, In places like Iraq and Syria and Iran and others You bomb because the local governments are SPONSORING the terror not trying to eliminate it.
The people of Al-queda and other terror groups are not some poor innocent freedom fighters who have been pushed into a corner, these people are fighting for the freedom to enslave women and treat them as property, these people are fighting to avoid the influence of civilization where differences can be reasoned out, they don't want something good and noble..they want barbarism and terror...period...no lofty goals..oh unless you consider dying to go to allah where you can then deflower 70 virgins a noble and lofty ideal. If for no other reason than womens right to be treated as people these groups need to be destroyed...but that isnt the only reason.
Anyway....please don't read into this response any hostility toward your view, I just wanted to point out the other side of the coin.
pax!