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Old 09-11-2001, 04:51 PM   #72
Nachtrafe
Red Wizard of Thay
 

Join Date: August 9, 2001
Location: Upstate NY, USA
Age: 51
Posts: 889
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Originally posted by Moni:
Camp David almost destroyed?! Where does that information come from?
See my above post. I misspoke. One of the planes that was hijacked was reported as on its way to Camp David when it crashed

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If you would continue reading consecutive posts within threads and not just jump in to badmouth me you would see that I said I do not think that Bush himself orchestrated it. I did not say it is the reason for these attacks.

I don't believe the planning of these attacks today took place overnight in case you really think I am that stupid.
Moni, I know for a fact that you are not stupid. I never stated, or even insinuated that you were. I just find the whole notion that this attack was predicated by the President and/or the Govt preposterous.

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Study your politics and tell me that there have never been politicians above sacrificing their own for their benefit in the long run.
Now its your turn. Please give me credit for intelligence too. I know very well that politicians throughout history have used the populace for their own ends. However, usually not in such a horrendous fashion.

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Tell me that you have proof that Desert Storm was not in any way a poiltically-based message sent to the American people by George Bush Sr. You would be fooling yourself to believe it.
Actually, the Gulf War was entirely economic. It was about US access to oil. Pure and simple.

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I also said within this thread "I would like to end up knowing later on that I am completely wrong right now."
I agree with that sentiment wholeheartedly.

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Did I say once that Bush is going to use this to take over the country?!
Please use your pocketchange to buy yourself a grip because you appear to have lost the one you showed up here with!
No...you didn't say the words "Bush is going to use this to take over the country?!" However, you insinuated it quite nicely.

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Read me for what I say, not for what you want it to mean and get off my back.
I don't give a crap if you are Cloudy's online boyfriend that gives you no right to put words in my mouth and twist what I say to fight with me.
Moni dear...My relationship with Cloudy has absolutely nothing to do with this, or any other debate I get into. You are being incredibly insulting to both her, and myself. You are also trying to divert this debate by bringing her into it. Follow your own rules. Defeat my arguements on their own merits. Dont bring imagined nepotism into your debates

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Memnoch, I am sorry if what I am saying here can be called a flame and the words directed at me cannot.
I am tired of defending myself against people who refuse to understand that we don't all think alike, we don't all talk alike and that we are, as individuals allowed our opinions in this country so long as we do no others any harm with them. I am not attacking anyone here yet I am on the defensive at every turn with "friends" on this board.

I bend over backwards on a regular basis apologizing to (a certain group of) people here who get kicks out of twisting my words, putting words in my mouth and coming across like I am a hateful person and quite frankly I am tired of it.

THIS IS NOT THE DAY TO FIGHT WITH ME!

THIS IS NOT THE DAY TO FIGHT WITH ANYONE!

Tell you what. Dont put words into my, or anyone else's mouth, and I, or anyone else, wont need to return the favor. I think you are percieving threat and persecution where there is absolutely none. I have read this, and every other thread that you are involved in regarding the days tragedy. You seem to be insisting that everyone is reading your posts wrong, yet most of them seem deliberately inflamatory. Perhaps I am one of the ones reading them wrong. If that is true, then I apologize. If its not true, you might want to edit them before hitting Submit.

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