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Originally posted by Silver Cheetah:
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Originally posted by John D Harris:
Now as you can see the USA is more efficent in it use of GAS for cars the great myth that we are not clean. The rest of the world clean your act up on auto emmissions, before you even think about pointing a finger at the USA. Europe & Japan are more efficeint in the turning of energy to final products, but then the size of the area and distance the raw matterials must be shipped to manufacturing, the to the consumers must be factored in (if you wish to be intellectually honest). The USA covers a much larger area then Western Europe, or Japan.
As for who, or whom is using energy the least efficient (MOST WASTEFULL) Why look it is Russia, China, and India, the every people Koyto (or What ever) would have let slide. Yeah,let the most wastefull slide and punish the most efficient that sounds like a good plan to me.
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First off, it's not down to area covered, but to population. The US is very lightly populated in comparison with Europe. Countries like the Netherlands have very high populations in relativly small land areas. How about a population comparison?
Regarding China and India, sigh, Kyota is not letting them 'slide'. They are to be brought in on the second phase. The reason for that is that they are relatively newly industrialised in comparison with the West, and large segments of both countries are still not industrialised at all. Time is required. The West enjoyed centuries of regulation free emitting, and built up much wealth in the process. China and India are asking for a little time to get their act together. Emissions cutting is costly, and they don't have the same resources as we do.[/QUOTE]That is Population density, not population! The USA IS NOT LIGHTLY POPULATED compared to Europe. It has a lower Population density, less people and more of mother nature's furry critters than Europe.
But what the heck we can reproduce and kill all the little furry creatures until we acheive that same population density if you like, I'll call my state congressman and get hunting season extended, Mind if I tell him you gave the OK? After all we need to have the same population density as Europe right?
Well, cut your countrie's emissions of auto exhast per vehicle, to our level per vehicle first, then we can talk about what needs to be done next.
SIGH***They are being let slide,**SIGH**, as you said yourself they are newly industrialized, they don't depend on industry like we do. Yet they are allowed to proportionally pollute at a Far higher level then anyone else. **SIGH** more primative industries = more pollution, higher level of industry you better nor pollute.
Doesn't sound to me like the real concern is pollution , but rather envy that some people have the things that they do, and others don't.
The old life isn't fair routine, well guess what, LIFE ISN"T FAIR. Who ever said it was!