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Originally posted by MagiK:
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Originally posted by Davros:
Heck - we may even see a female member of Augusta National, or Royal St Georges by those times  .
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Can you help me to understand why it is so important for Augusta to have a Female "Member"? Are we then to say we need to do away with ALL clubs and organizations that segregate on the basis of sex? Shall all the YMCA's allow women and all YWCA's allow men? Boy and Girl Scouts be abolished replaced by just Scouts? What about locker rooms? Shall we say one room for all because we don't want any descrimination....where does the line lie?
Before you think IM being too sarcastict here, think a bit. Augusta is a privately owned club. They allow a particular event to USE their facility.
Why (as long as they don't dictate who can be in the event) do they then have to invite someone they do not want as a member into their private membership?
Where does a persons right to associate with other like minded people to the exclusion of other like minded people end? Does it exist at all? Are we all to be forced to associate with people that we do not want to? By what moral imperitive is it evil for people to form clubs of any kind with exclusive memberships? [/QUOTE]Nice to see someone so protective of male rights MagiK [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img] - it is a cruel callous world we live in, and it lightens my heart to see a beacon of support against the issues that are grinding us menfolk down.
If you go back to the full post that you cut this excerpt from Ray, you will see that my statements weren't used as an attack to try and change those male bastions (I've been into the Royal St Georges clubhouse, and rest asusred, those of us posessing a penis are treated right royally [img]smile.gif[/img] ). They were used in an allegorical sense to relate two things (the female member issue at those instititions AND women golfers being able to stand toe to toe with the men and compete effectively day in day out) that could well happen in the future, but are unlikely to happen in any short time frame.
My post never in fact indicated my support or otherwise for the changing of these institutions. In fact my belief is that these organistions should change if they wish too, but have the right to remain as they are if they so choose.