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Mordenheim · 05-12-2003, 01:07 PM

If that is the case then a physical including drinking , eating, smoking should be par for getting a job. Last time I got a job my heart, liver, and how much I eat fast food were not on the question list.

A Nazi term used in America is someone who tries to force their view on you no matter the cost. I think it fit's well in the context it is used here. Having said that I am not one to use it except on extreme circumstances.

There is no doubt smoking is bad. However if you look at a impact on society drinking has had a FAR bigger impact on the negative. To be honest the quit smoking campaign is pretty darn close to the hysteria created over marijuana in the 20s? I have not smoked marijuana since my teen's but I can tell you my experiences with alchohal were far worse. I find it funny drinking a poison is so easily a accepted and everything else is considered not bad but horrible. Alchohal has a huge negative impact on communities, families, and the ever growing people killed by a drunk driver. Think about that before someone comes back with "it don't hurt anyone but the person drinking" because frankly that is pure bs.

I understand second hand smoke is not a "nice" thing and can be dangerous. Yet to hear some talk people could easily be swayed to ban it outright had they a choice. That my friends is a very scary thought. No smoking in public? You kidding me? Last I checked this earth is every part of mine as well. I do not smoke but man let someone tell me I can not use a legal product in my own front yard or private owned pool hall. Define public and I might agree but that is a very broad term.

The idea that they can FORCE someone owning a bar to not allow the ue of a legal product scares the heck out of me. You don't tear down right's in one day or one ruling but a series of them. Freedom has never been free (anywhere in the world) and I think people in America have forgot that. Do not worry worry euro-s I join you in laughing at our legal system. While it has strong points it has been used, exploited, and twisted to about every degree possible. It is political to the extent a couple cases can destroy a company by giving sums that stupify logic.

I am sorry to rant off but really I see it as the same issue. Is it honestly such a far cry from not smoking in public anywhere? Is that not a far cry from showing gun's are a danger to the public and should be banned? This pick and choose where freedom is ok mentality is dangerous. The idea that freedom end's when it affects another person can be carried out to extremes unchecked in a ever growing political correct United States. TL is 100% correct in the damage done to EVERYBODYs air by our uncaring attitude or consumption of dirty oil and usage of dirty plants makes smoking seem like a non-factor. How about we be a little honest and drop the selfish want of big vehicles and cheap dirty plants and make some real change.

I have never been a smoker. I have had a few friends over time who smoked. I can tell you they say they get 1000 dirty looks a day. You might be a little rude to if you dealt with such obvious disdain. I guess they should take the visual abuse and smile. How snobby some people can be huh.

I think it's time ole Mordenheim put back on his green jacket and got all political. Seem's everyone is smarter then the next guy so I'll fit right in [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 05-12-2003, 01:09 PM: Message edited by: Mordenheim ]

05-12-2003, 01:07 PM	#182
Mordenheim Elminster Join Date: October 2, 2001 Location: Icewind Dale Age: 47 Posts: 432	If that is the case then a physical including drinking , eating, smoking should be par for getting a job. Last time I got a job my heart, liver, and how much I eat fast food were not on the question list. A Nazi term used in America is someone who tries to force their view on you no matter the cost. I think it fit's well in the context it is used here. Having said that I am not one to use it except on extreme circumstances. There is no doubt smoking is bad. However if you look at a impact on society drinking has had a FAR bigger impact on the negative. To be honest the quit smoking campaign is pretty darn close to the hysteria created over marijuana in the 20s? I have not smoked marijuana since my teen's but I can tell you my experiences with alchohal were far worse. I find it funny drinking a poison is so easily a accepted and everything else is considered not bad but horrible. Alchohal has a huge negative impact on communities, families, and the ever growing people killed by a drunk driver. Think about that before someone comes back with "it don't hurt anyone but the person drinking" because frankly that is pure bs. I understand second hand smoke is not a "nice" thing and can be dangerous. Yet to hear some talk people could easily be swayed to ban it outright had they a choice. That my friends is a very scary thought. No smoking in public? You kidding me? Last I checked this earth is every part of mine as well. I do not smoke but man let someone tell me I can not use a legal product in my own front yard or private owned pool hall. Define public and I might agree but that is a very broad term. The idea that they can FORCE someone owning a bar to not allow the ue of a legal product scares the heck out of me. You don't tear down right's in one day or one ruling but a series of them. Freedom has never been free (anywhere in the world) and I think people in America have forgot that. Do not worry worry euro-s I join you in laughing at our legal system. While it has strong points it has been used, exploited, and twisted to about every degree possible. It is political to the extent a couple cases can destroy a company by giving sums that stupify logic. I am sorry to rant off but really I see it as the same issue. Is it honestly such a far cry from not smoking in public anywhere? Is that not a far cry from showing gun's are a danger to the public and should be banned? This pick and choose where freedom is ok mentality is dangerous. The idea that freedom end's when it affects another person can be carried out to extremes unchecked in a ever growing political correct United States. TL is 100% correct in the damage done to EVERYBODYs air by our uncaring attitude or consumption of dirty oil and usage of dirty plants makes smoking seem like a non-factor. How about we be a little honest and drop the selfish want of big vehicles and cheap dirty plants and make some real change. I have never been a smoker. I have had a few friends over time who smoked. I can tell you they say they get 1000 dirty looks a day. You might be a little rude to if you dealt with such obvious disdain. I guess they should take the visual abuse and smile. How snobby some people can be huh. I think it's time ole Mordenheim put back on his green jacket and got all political. Seem's everyone is smarter then the next guy so I'll fit right in [img]smile.gif[/img] [ 05-12-2003, 01:09 PM: Message edited by: Mordenheim ]