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Originally posted by Sir Kenyth:
I'm tired of this.
1. Milk is no better or worse than any other food consumed in appropriate quantities to provide necessary nutrients.
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Well, all I said was you get no CALCIUM from it. It is NOT what it is advertized as. Personally, I do not restrict dairy from my diet.
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2. Yes, it is the breast milk of bovines. What's your point?
3. No, it's not pus. That's just a convenient false analogy to make it seem disgusting.
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As I didn't say any of this, I have no "point" regarding it.
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4. Anyone who truly beleives that humans are natural herbivores has not done much research on the subject. Completely herbiverous (grazing) animals all have ways to digest cellulose, the primary energy source found in leafy plants. We humans have no way to digest this substance and simply pass it through (fiber). Even with the ability to digest cellulose, herbiverous animals live to eat plants, chew and re-chew all day long in order to get enough food.
5. We are Omnivores! Do you hear that! OMNIVORES! We require some plant based foods and some animal based foods to get the proper mix of nutrients.
6. Modern science and food processing are the things that have made the Vegan diet possible. Without processed foods to fill in the gaps, the vegan diet is sorely lacking in certain vital nutrients.
Lastly, I am not knocking a HEALTHY diet. That's great! Nor am I knocking REASONABLE animal rights. Anyone with respect for life should believe in those anyway. I am knocking what I consider an extremist view, and the inability to accept what we are as human beings. Don't be ashamed to be at the top of the food chain! We're not perfect, but we're as good as it gets on this particular planet!
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Agreed on all points - not so vehemently, but agreed.

Personally, I don't eat meat as a health/policy choice. I do not approve of factory farming treatment of animals, and I do not trust factory farmed food - meat most of all.
Regarding the top of the food chain, I agree again. If you and I went out in the forest and killed a deer ourselves, I'd eat it. But, many many people admit they would NOT eat meat if they couldn't buy it in 8-oz. pre-packaged amounts. I think that removing the act of eating meat from the acts of preparing meat dehumanizes us just a bit - to appreciate life is to see all sides, including the side that life must end for yours to continue.