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Originally posted by Grojlach:
I have the feeling you misunderstand me, but I was referring to the same Max Martin you mentioned earlier on and similar writers/producers... Who was (partly) behind the success of the Backstreet Boys, 5ive, 'N Sync, Britney Spears, to name a few; a person who after a more or less failed career as a glamrocker doesn't care about keeping the best songs to himself, because he releases none under his real name.  And you tell me, with the almost trivial differences between some of the acts he's launched or helped to launch, that none of the songs originally intended for one of his acts ends up for another?
I'm not sure where I made any claims of the ones behind the "hitgroups" nowadays not being REAL musicians and expending REAL creativity, as I'm pretty sure I didn't; but do me a favour and don't sling terms like "pile of horse manure" and "very very insulting to musicians" around so easily. It's a bit uncalled for, and actually quite unnecessary.
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AH well no worries. I still luv ya Grojl.
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Anyhow, I was attempting to say, that Max Martin is a genius, and shouldn't be denigrated simply because millions of people enjoy the music he creates. As the producer he "owns" the sound far more than his acts, as evident from the similarity of the records. When you buy a Britney record, you are actually buying a Max Martin record with a pretty girl as it's "packaging" or brandname.
It's no different to bands of yesteryear, except that Martin is not required to promote and tour his records, and can work on other records with other "packaging".
How is the Beach Boys Brian Wilson any different from Martin? Brian stopped touring with the beachboys and so was not part of "the band" that the fans went to see in concert, yet Brian was the musical genius who in many cases recorded ALL the VOCALS.
By taking a derisory view of "manufactured pop" you do the producers - who are the real artists of "manufactured pop" - a disservice.
That's what I'm trying to say Grojl.
[ 04-23-2003, 02:38 AM: Message edited by: Yorick ]