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Originally posted by Yorick:
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Originally posted by Grojlach:
Often, most of these pushed and prefabricated artists have the same team of "masterminds" behind them; the same people who discovered them, producers, the real song composers and writers, record company bobo's, image specialists... They've basically got one "major" pool of songs and song-ideas, probably not even knowing for which artist they will be used during the writing process.
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This is a pile of horse manure. The producers and writers are REAL musicians, expending REAL creative energy making below par talent that looks good in a bikini sound good so that non-selective consumers - who would otherwise ignore the older fatter musical genius if they presented work without the 'face' society usually demands and expects to see - actually checks out their work.
The money writers get from having songs on anothers album, usually funds their own projects. Same with producers. Daniel Lanois' own albums achieved nowhere near the success of the albums he produced for U2.
You are being very very insulting to musicians, writers and composers who pour so much energy into a project.
Giving away your 'best' song to another artist is very difficult. Ironically I have to use 'best' in the context of 'hit potential' as that's the language being used here 
If you have a problem with how music's promotional presentation is "manufactured" look no further than the average Joe that buys (or doesn't buy as is the case now) records. [/QUOTE]I have the feeling you misunderstand me, but I was referring to the same Max Martin you mentioned earlier on and similar writers/producers... Who was (partly) behind the success of the Backstreet Boys, 5ive, 'N Sync, Britney Spears, to name a few; a person who after a more or less failed career as a glamrocker doesn't care about keeping the best songs to himself, because he releases none under his real name.
And you tell me, with the almost trivial differences between some of the acts he's launched or helped to launch, that none of the songs originally intended for one of his acts ends up for another?
I'm not sure where I made any claims of the ones behind the "hitgroups" nowadays not being REAL musicians and expending REAL creativity, as I'm pretty sure I didn't; but do me a favour and don't sling terms like "pile of horse manure" and "very very insulting to musicians" around so easily. It's a bit uncalled for, and actually quite unnecessary.