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DraconisRex · 04-04-2003, 01:16 PM

The problem with the "guns don't kill, people do" arguement is that there is a .92 (1.0 being perfect) correllation between gun availability and murder rates.

There have been many, many, many studies done. Some are US/Canada studies. Some are US/Canada/England. Some include upto 50+ first and second world countries.

Murder rates are broken down by non-gun and gun. For example, in one study it was found the US non-gun murder rate was 1.3X times Canada. That is, we are a more violent society. However, when "gun murders" were compared, our rate was 15.0X that of Canada.

Another study found firearm homicides per million:

Canada 0.60
United States 6.29

Now, yes, people kill people. But they find it much easier to do so when they have guns. And, in fact, if they don't have guns, they have a marked tendency to NOT kill people.

So the statement should probably be written to:

People with guns are 12X more likely to kill people than people without.

04-04-2003, 01:16 PM	#6
DraconisRex Avatar Join Date: January 4, 2002 Location: On my rear-end. Posts: 563	The problem with the "guns don't kill, people do" arguement is that there is a .92 (1.0 being perfect) correllation between gun availability and murder rates. There have been many, many, many studies done. Some are US/Canada studies. Some are US/Canada/England. Some include upto 50+ first and second world countries. Murder rates are broken down by non-gun and gun. For example, in one study it was found the US non-gun murder rate was 1.3X times Canada. That is, we are a more violent society. However, when "gun murders" were compared, our rate was 15.0X that of Canada. Another study found firearm homicides per million: Canada 0.60 United States 6.29 Now, yes, people kill people. But they find it much easier to do so when they have guns. And, in fact, if they don't have guns, they have a marked tendency to NOT kill people. So the statement should probably be written to: People with guns are 12X more likely to kill people than people without. __________________ Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?<br /><br />Vah! Denuone Latine loquebar? Me ineptum. Interdum modo elabitur.<br /><br />Di! Ecce hora! Uxor mea me necabit!