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02-24-2003, 12:35 PM

Well this week they took on two distinct issues.
The first Steaming Pile of B.S. that they looked at was the complete lack of honesty and science behind the claims made by the WHO, American Lung Association, The American Cancer Association, the US EPA and many other anti-smoking organizations, about "SECOND HAND SMOKE" and its leading to lung cancer.

All of the mentioned organizations use the same EPA study which when examined in detail reveals no correlation between 2nd hand smoke and lung cancer or deaths. When confronted with the statistical facts the leaders of these organization fall back on a single premise. "We are only trying to make people healthier". I say all well and good but dammit, use science not scare tactics and lies to do it. These groups went from claiming 3000 deaths from second hand smoke to 3,000,000 annually....they just forget to mention they can't tell you a single name of anyone of those 3,000,000...you see the numbers were a statistical probability based on a number that never existed in the first place.....God I hate Junk Science.

The second revelation was the reletively new assault of fear tactics toward new parents. There are now millions of dollars to be made by convincing parents
that they cannot possibly be good parents unless they by a book, or a video, and that if they do not read to their baby in utero or play Mozart for the kid that they will be harming their child. P&T revealed the lack of serious clinical evidence for many of the claims, even the guy who first said that listening to Mozart or other classical music admits no real studies were done on babys or foetuses.....gaaaaaahhhhhh

Im gonna puke. People, we survived for thousands of years with no recorded music of any kind...raise your kids, don't spend $$$ on idiot scams.

Thats my P&T report for this week, see you all next week, when Penn and Teller take on the Sex industry......I may not be allowed to post much on next weeks show....

Edit: I do not and never have smoked, I don't have any love for big tobacco nor do I hate it. All I will say, is I prefer a smoke free environment but cannot stand for lies and junk scince.

[ 02-24-2003, 12:36 PM: Message edited by: MagiK ]

02-24-2003, 12:35 PM	#1
MagiK Guest Posts: n/a	Well this week they took on two distinct issues. The first Steaming Pile of B.S. that they looked at was the complete lack of honesty and science behind the claims made by the WHO, American Lung Association, The American Cancer Association, the US EPA and many other anti-smoking organizations, about "SECOND HAND SMOKE" and its leading to lung cancer. All of the mentioned organizations use the same EPA study which when examined in detail reveals no correlation between 2nd hand smoke and lung cancer or deaths. When confronted with the statistical facts the leaders of these organization fall back on a single premise. "We are only trying to make people healthier". I say all well and good but dammit, use science not scare tactics and lies to do it. These groups went from claiming 3000 deaths from second hand smoke to 3,000,000 annually....they just forget to mention they can't tell you a single name of anyone of those 3,000,000...you see the numbers were a statistical probability based on a number that never existed in the first place.....God I hate Junk Science. The second revelation was the reletively new assault of fear tactics toward new parents. There are now millions of dollars to be made by convincing parents that they cannot possibly be good parents unless they by a book, or a video, and that if they do not read to their baby in utero or play Mozart for the kid that they will be harming their child. P&T revealed the lack of serious clinical evidence for many of the claims, even the guy who first said that listening to Mozart or other classical music admits no real studies were done on babys or foetuses.....gaaaaaahhhhhh Im gonna puke. People, we survived for thousands of years with no recorded music of any kind...raise your kids, don't spend $$$ on idiot scams. Thats my P&T report for this week, see you all next week, when Penn and Teller take on the Sex industry......I may not be allowed to post much on next weeks show.... Edit: I do not and never have smoked, I don't have any love for big tobacco nor do I hate it. All I will say, is I prefer a smoke free environment but cannot stand for lies and junk scince. [ 02-24-2003, 12:36 PM: Message edited by: MagiK ]