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Originally posted by Charlie:
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Originally posted by Link:
[QB]Even if you don't agree with who he is and what he does, Charlie, I think it's not fair you call him an arshole.. for any reason.QB]
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I'm not after arguments. Any person I suspect of child abuse will always and forever be an arsehole in my mind, irrespective of their talents or mental capabilities.
If I thought Stephen Hawking a child abuser....I'd call him an arsehole.
M.J in my mind doesn't only have a talent for music.....ahem..
P.S. I've seen children dressed in veils and babies hung over balconies....the unstable, dangerous practises of an arsehole imo.
P.P.S. Spot on LZ, and put in a nutshell.[/QUOTE]Any person you
suspect of child abuse? So suspicion is all it takes for judgement in today's just society, is it? All we ened to do to ostracise someone is say - oh, look. he's not within my definition of normal, he says he likes kids, I
suspect he is a criminal, ergo he is an arsehole.
A small reminder - peoples' suspicions can be wrong. And people are too suspicious nowadays, and too quick to implicitly believe their own judgement.
Yes, he is very very mentally ill. Yes, he has serious issues in many areas. Yes, he says he likes kids and even has them for sleepovers.
Obviously this is activity that is disgusting! How *dare* a grown man like kids? Or ever sleep near one! Disgraceful! He's obviously a child molester.
Hold on, a few times when i've been watching TV with my nephew/niece on my knee, we've fallen asleep! *I* must be a paedophile! I mean, I'm an introvert. I'ma grown man who likes kids! I'm obviously suspected of being a criminal, and all we need is suspicion nowadays, apparently.
Oh, wait a minute, I remember when I was little i used to sleep in my parents' bed when I was ill. Obviously they are criminals too! How dare they! There is *no* way that any adult could even sleep near a child without it being suspicious, *ever*! After all, if you
thought Stephen Hawking a child abuser, that's obviously enough for you to form an instant opinion of him, whether or not your
suspicions are correct. Let's not even bother with proof, shall we? It's obviously overrated.
Come on guys, he is obviously very very ill. He needs psychotherapy. He does not, however, beat his children. He doesn't neglect them in favour of a rampant drink/drug habit.
He puts veils over their faces! *GASP* he's obviously drawing them into his world of self-delusion and fantasy! He's a dangerous man who must be stopped! I
suspect he is causign mental harm to his kids.
Oh, hang on, he could be doing it for their benefit, just so the press won't know what they look like and can't hound them 24/7. Hmm ... naw, he obviously is doing it for some sinister reason. After all, he's Michael Jackson, and everyone has definitve and absolute
supposition that he's a child-abuser.
If it was ever taken to court and he was *proven* beyond reasonable doubt that he is a child-abuser and a danger to children, I'll then join in with everyone who demands he be locked away forever. Until then I'll respect the man's inalienable, constitutional right to be innocent until
proven guilty, and simply define him as a very very very strange and mentally ill man.
Just a little eye-opener - a british woman was recently released and vindicated when she was jailed for killing her kids. The evidence was flawed, she was completely innocent, and had 3 years of her life stolen from her. I bet when she was jailed, she had screaming mobs ranting about her being a child murderer and baying at her. They were wrong. Your suspicions may be wrong.