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Old 02-06-2003, 08:17 AM   #46
The Hierophant
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Join Date: May 10, 2002
Location: Dunedin, New Zealand.
Age: 43
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Originally posted by MagiK:
Don't suppose you have even a single example of this, long term and large scale? You and BTS both keep mentioning that you have been frustrated in your efforts to explain "True" communism to people.....ever think that it is the very nature of human beings that is frustrating you? It is quite apparent that you have nobel ideals, but you just refuse to accept people for what they actually are.
- Practically every nomadic society in human existance, the traditional heritage of which outspans the entire history of civilization at least tenfold.
- The Mycenaen Greeks.
- The Bronze-Age Minoans.
to name but a few.

Accepting people for what they are does not frustrate me, it is what keeps me going. Accepting what modern society makes them is what I find so difficult. The psychology of the modern industrialized city is not natural, it relegates the goals of the communal group to the accumulation of non-essential goods. It triggers and encourages ambition within the human to 'climb' an abstract, ordered social 'ladder' in an attempt to attain a 'better' life. It is modern society that encourages the futile chasing of imaginary dreams. In the end it encapsulates greed and ambition as virtue, and worships anti-social characteristics in an attempt to fuel it's theoretical 'economies'. Yet it is only one particular way of human social life, nothing more, nothing less. It is currently the dominant form of human social interaction on the planet. But its voracious consumption of resources is non-sustainable, and it shall collapse under it's own weight within a few short millenia (ie: the historical blink of an eye).
People are what they have been taught and conditioned to be. To be shown no alternative, to be instructed to 'be capitalist or be trampled by other capitalists', that is what keeps people clinging to the boundaries of modern civilization.

[ 02-06-2003, 08:47 AM: Message edited by: The Hierophant ]
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