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Originally posted by Timber Loftis:
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Originally posted by John D Harris:
1st It is my money I make it not the Cop, He makes His own money for the job he does it's called a paycheck.
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Okay, I'm pulling this from your earlier post to pick on it, but I'll note that all the stuff I'm not quoting was pretty on-point.
But, here's a basic flaw in your statement above: if YOU don't pay taxes, the cop doesn't GET a paycheck. The government has decided that it is in YOUR interest to have police protect you from harm, and seizes some of your money to do that.
If the government did not do that, we would be left only to the protection we could afford ourselves. Or, we'd all be paying private security companies "protection money" for their "services." So, do you suggest we live that way? These "goods" that are socially beneficial are called "externalities" of the market - the free market doesn't tend to produce them on its own.[/QUOTE]TL,
Nowhere have I or any of the other proponents of tax cuts said we should not pay any taxes at all so that the government can't provide certain services. In fact in an answer to one of skywalker's posts I allready covered that missconception.(Edit: it was a similar misconception, page 1) It is not a flaw in my statement, sorry but it is a flaw in you understanding of my statement
"Paying taxes" and "It's my money" are not "mutualy exclusive". The government did not decide it was in my interest to take my money to provide for services. I and citizens like me decided that when we elected our represenatives, who then passed the tax laws and then we voted back in during the next election. Or in easy to understand terms we didn't vote them out and vote in new representatives that would have reversed the earlier laws. Which is the whole problem in a nutshell. The Dems won the elections for years and got the laws they could passed, Now the Reps have won and are trying to change the earlier Dem passed laws. That is why the liberal Dems are crying so loud now, well to them I say tough this is the USA and it's winner take all, in two years they'll get the chance again to scrap and see if they win. Until then "too bad so sad", "there can be only one", "if you ain't the lead dog the view doesn't change".
The free market will produce anything on it's own that somebody sees they can make money doing. UA went under because they forgot the basic rule of business you have to bring more money in then you let go out. Period no excuses, your employees hopes dreams and lives depend on your business doing that.
For all the liberals,
Now that all that is over with I'm still waiting on answer to my questions earlier in the thread about why are the Liberal Dems all of a sudden are calling for their own TAX CUTS (although they won't use those words)after years of telling us that the TAX INCREASE of 1993 was the great savior of the economy? Why would tax increases NOT work now after all Bill Clinton inhierited the worst economy in "fifty years" so say the Liberal DEMS. And fixxed it with tax increases. Can anybody say "It's the economy stupid" remember that line of HAPPY horse manure. I sure as "farts" ignite can
and I'm just a simple high school "grandulated" country boy.
Come on people bring your best hitter out. "Hale" I'm getting tried of pitching "strikes".
I got a great outfield with MagiK, Khazman, Attalus( sorry guys I'm to lazy to double check the spelling
), and a promising up and coming shortstop in Iron Ranger. Come on somebody give my guys a workout.
[ 01-31-2003, 11:19 PM: Message edited by: John D Harris ]