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Old 01-30-2003, 09:49 AM   #25
John D Harris
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Join Date: March 27, 2001
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Originally posted by skywalker:
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My budget will commit an additional 400 billion dollars over the next decade to reform and strengthen Medicare.

Tonight I am proposing 1.2 billion dollars in research funding so that America can lead the world in developing clean, hydrogen-powered automobiles.

I propose a 450 million dollar initiative to bring mentors to more than a million disadvantaged junior high students and children of prisoners.

Too many Americans in search of treatment cannot get it. So tonight I propose a new 600 million dollar program to help an additional 300,000 Americans receive treatment over the next three years.

I ask the Congress to commit 15 billion dollars over the next five years, including nearly ten billion dollars in new money, to turn the tide against
We have the terrorists on the run, and we are keeping them on the run. One by one, the terrorists are learning the meaning of American justice.
Granted it is your money, but as shown in the quote above (from the SOTU) there are big plans for your money. The tax dollars don't get funneled into politicians pockets (not all of it anyway). Someone has to pay for this stuff. Does the average American really think that there is nothing given in return for taxes paid?

I guess it's better to pay less and place the burden of paying off our debt on future generations.

I don't understand why the States have to balance their budgets, by law, but the Federal Government does not.

And if people want to pay less taxes, they should be more than willing to cut all the excess programs in the budget. Of course, if the politicians do that, how would they get re-elected?

Mark
[/QUOTE]Skywalker,
Nobody has said we get nothing in return for our tax dollars, most of us have said we're not wanting to pay more.

(For all no taxcutters)
But nobody on the other side has even tried to address the FACT that the liberal Dems are also proposing tax cuts, After years of telling us that it was the TAX increases signed into law in 1993 that got us out of the "Bush recession" (an oximoron if there ever was one, and please somebody check the figures and try to challenge me ) So where was I oh yeah, if tax increases were the great savior that got us out of the "Bush recession" then why aren't the liberal Dems pushing tax increases now? Well it's simple, yes that's right simple, there was no real recession in fact the USA economy grew faster in 1992 before the tax increases of 1993. 1994 we (the USA as a whole)were closer to a recession then in 1992. And in 1994 the Reps got a hold of the purse strings of the US government and slowed spending. Yeap thats right the House of Reps is where ALL budget (spending) bills MUST start (US Consitution) The reps held down the government spending which slowed the defeict growth and people "Felt" better (remember in the early 90's al the hubbub about the defeict) so they spent their money (more accuratly spent money they didn't have and went into debt) on what ever they wanted. And the spending of private individuals kept the economy from going in the Crapper. Now private individuals are spending less because their debt is starting to catch up with them. They can't spend more because they don't have more never did have it execpt on paper in their stock portfolio. They was counting their chickens 'foren they hatched. And the Dems know it that's why they are also proposing tax cuts or if you want to call it tax rebates (in either case the result is the same taxpayers get more of their money back). The Dems were either LYING to us then (1993) or they are LYING to us now! noway around it and I'm not giving ground on the facts, so if anyone wants to challenge these facts you better come loaded for bear. In the real world feelings don't mean squat, 2+2=4, it doesn't matter if you feel it =5, or 6, or4. It equals 4 no matter what you feel.

[ 01-30-2003, 09:52 AM: Message edited by: John D Harris ]
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