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Old 01-26-2003, 10:02 PM   #73
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Join Date: October 26, 2001
Location: Sterling Heights, MI, USA
Age: 47
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Originally posted by antryg:
Moraine- Where is your true scientist? They obviously aren't posting on this thread.
As a holder (and practitioner... I researched treatments to a cancer for one job, and studied evolutionary processes for several others) of two science degrees, I can proudly say, "I'm right here, baby." (;
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"Evolution is an undisputed fact." That sentiment keeps getting posted as well.
But it IS a disputed theory... you could call it a fact, so long as you are willing to admit that a "fact" is not concrete.
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Let's just ignore the fact that evolution as a theory goes against other scientific facts such as probability theory and several laws in physics.
Of COURSE it goes against other scientific facts! We're not omnipotent, we're searching for evidence. Science will adapt as more evidence smoothes out the details. BTW, as an ex-paleontologist, I can say that the second part of your statement (evolution working against probability theory, and several laws in physics) is not true.
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If we accept your definition of a true scientist then a true scientist would at least allow for the possibility of God.
Correct-a-mundo! ...EVERY scientist must allow him/herself to ponder "but what if...?" I completely allow for the possibility of a God (or Gods). There is much evidence for the existance of such! There is also counter-evidence.
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You are correct that a Christian theologian would start out from the premise that there is God. All that shows is that a theologian is not a true scientist by your definition. It does not show that theologian cannot use the scientific method or have a grounding in science.
Using the scientific method, or being grounded in science, while missing one of the KEY aspects of it, does NOT make one a scientist... although it's a good start! (;

[ 01-26-2003, 10:05 PM: Message edited by: Gammit ]
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