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Originally posted by Grungi:
where does it say that if you dont believe in god you dont get into heaven? way i see it even saddam hussein gets a chance [img]tongue.gif[/img] (believes in a different religion and is an evil psycho) , heaven seems to let just about anyone in so long as they repent, and if your standing outside heaven then you'd probably be pretty heartfelt in your repenting. IF there is a heaven and IF it follows what the bible says then you pretty much guaranteed to get in, unless your evil and have no care for anyone else, if you live a good life thats far more important than believing in god, if god is what hes said to be then which would he prefer? would god prefer you to live a good life and not believe or would he prefer you to lead a terrible life whilst being very religious? im 100% that i believe god would choose the former and would let you into heaven regardless of your faith.
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A lot of Christians would be to differ I'm afraid. Waiting for Cerek to get to this topic... I can't speak for him, but I think he does believe that a religious person who has sinned lots and truly repents will be accepted into heaven, no matter how grave the sins were (as long as there's true repentance, mind) and a person who does acts of goodness, of selflessness, of love his/her entire life, but who is not truly religious will be barred from heaven.
There's also an Internet site of a guy called Jack Chick, that proclaims similar stuff. No matter how good you think you are, even religious, the only thing that will get you into heaven is "accepting Jesus as your saviour".
Needless to say I think this is a terrible belief (no offense of course!). Just think what heaven will look like! Any murderer who truly repents his crime and gives himself up to God can be redeemed, but not someone who gave all their earthly possessions away to the poor, who lived an exemplary life, did similar things saints did, but never really decided about God one way or the other will go to hell. Judging purely by the respective populations, I don't know whether hell is worse than heaven in this scenario.
But anyway, nuance, nuance, most Christians I know do not hold this belief.
[ 01-22-2003, 07:17 AM: Message edited by: Melusine ]