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Old 12-17-2002, 06:34 AM   #7
Grungi
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theres plenty of reasons TV being the main one, TV brings up children not the parents these days, it used to be families played with one another and helped each other out, and children didnt go out until they were at least 16 but now they go out at 10 and cause trouble because they have nothing else to do, theres no decent youth centres and TV is just a quick fix, im not saying im against TV as i love it [img]tongue.gif[/img] but it should be rationed to children, i wasnt allowed to watch when i was younger past 10 0 clock and only if it was something on worth seeing that my mum or dad would let me see and its done me no harm, parents have stopped being strict because the society view on strict parents is a bad one, and noone wants to appear to be like that, unfortunately you have to be strict with your children for them to respect you as an authority figure so long as you temper it with love and affection for them, i seen so many people on tv going "oh i couldnt say no to my child thats what loving him is about" well bull**** it is, saying no is called toughlove and is more important than saying yes yes yes all the time, there has to be some kind of discipline involved or the child will grow up with none and cause problems for itself later in life unless with a very strong character.

Due to the way society is going these days parents have children when they are just children themselves, they never get to grow up (again especially in a benefits state it all comes too easy) some kind of national service would be a good idea in all countries i think, only for 3 months or so, just to get a bit of discipline and toughen people up, either that or parents should start learning how to instill discipline properly (that would obviously be the ideal solution) I dont have children, but when i do i will make sure they know its my house and my rules and that until they are 16 regardless of their maturity they do not get to make the rules, but at the same time im going to give them everything i can to make their lives good, again taking my parents example that doesnt mean the latest pair of trainers or computer console, take them on good holidays for one, thats what my parents did, at the time i wanted the latest trainers instead i got a holiday to america (talk about letdown j/k) but i remember those experiences still, saw different culture stayed with two friends of the family in the US in california and new mexico and drove all the western states and was way better than any pair of trainers plus it was good for me in the long run, obviously need money to do all this but once a year its worth it.

Also if my children ever take drugs they will be kicked out of the house regardless of age and i will make sure they know that young and that im not joking, problem these days is parents know it goes on and do nothing, so it just keeps happening, sitting them down and giving endless lectures doesnt help. Theres no right way to parenting but theres definately a wrong way and unfortunately these days it seems so many parents (esp in the area im living in) are terrible at it, gangs of 14 year olds running around causing trouble, smashing windows, scaring people etc its the same in most countries, global problem id say, and that makes it one of the biggest problems the world is facing because these children are the future so if people dont start laying down some kind of structure now what will happen in 50 years when they are the "mature" ones, problem will escalate still further I hate the state or government intervening and i dont think its right for them to do so but in this instance i think if you have problem children (obviously severe problem children) then you should be forced to do some kind of parenting class and have no say in the matter.

ah well yet another unstructured rant from me hehe [img]smile.gif[/img] frankly some of the kids around here id happily gun down, shop was smashed and ransacked next door last night, whole window done in about 1 o clock, i heard it as i was still awake, kids running off and laughing, windows about 8 metres long, and they could go out of business as its boarded up and hard to tell if the place is open so noone is going in, a bunch of kids could wreck their small business, totally out of order, so obviously my solution would be line em up and shoot the little ****** failing that obviously improved parenting hehe

as for schools they can only pick up where the parents left off, its their business to teach and to impose some kind of discipline structure as well to set people up for the workplace environment, its not their place to babysit troubled children.
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