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Old 12-05-2002, 05:04 AM   #195
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Originally posted by Yorick:
You're missing my point. Name one BELIEVED to be the inspired word of a God independent from creation, apart from the Bible. You can't do it can you. You generalised and said "All religions have a book inspired by God", yet now can't name one other than the Bible. C'mon do your research
You caught me. I remembered reading somewhere that there were something like 25 holy books which were claimed to be divinely inspired. I don't remember where I saw this, and no I don't know specific books. I'm not a theology major and I haven't had time to learn as much about the religions of the world as you have. Here in Texas we don't exactly talk about alot besides Christianity if you get my drift [img]smile.gif[/img]

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However, for here, you made a pronouncement about how I would be.

Firstly you don't know me so how can you speak about who I am.

Secondly and more importantly, you are using an "if so" argument. "If this then that" Totally non-quantifiable, provable and unscientific. All we know is what DOES exist, not what would if some other existance were so.

Thus, in this reality, I get my morals from knowing God. Without my faith, I would exist in a survival of the fittest/law of the jungle headspace.

I am also existing in a Judeo-Christian society, which bases it's principles of justice, right and wrong, on the foundations of these faiths. For example: we do not have the ritual human sacrifice of Inca or Aztec cultures, our Judeo-Christian foundations created an atmosphere of horror towards such practices.

Seeing as western culture is based on religious principles it's very difficult to comment on how moral a person would be without the influence of religious ideas. All we can know is what we have before us, not "what if".
That's an interesting argument and one that I definately haven't heard before. You are right. If there had never been religion there is no way of predicting what the world would be like. It could be similar to what we know now or extremely different. However, on an individual basis, and from my experience, people who do not practice religion (even though religion is still all around us...) are not any less moral than those that do. Which is what I was trying to talk about. If you for example had never been religious, would you still be a moral person?
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