[Vaskez]

This might be a bit late into the discussion, but if anyone cares, I'll add my views....
I've also had long and hard-fought discussions about this topic and realise that noone ever budges in their point of view, but what the hell.

Now this is just my opinion, so no one take offense...
To me it seems stupid how people cannot see that there is a God and I don't care whether you call Him Allah or God or whatever. As people have said, can you ask atoms : "did you create yourself?" no you cannot. Yes, I believe in evolution and the big bang, I believe they were tools of God. But someone must have created the atoms to make the big bang right? Yes God. And who created God? God has always existed. He who has existed forever need not be created as creation implies they must have a beginning and an end. That's the only logical explanation in my mind. And that's not taking into account the hundreds of thousands of people who've studied this topic for their whole lives and come to the conclusion that they can't explain life except if God exists. Einstein was one of them for example.
Also they've calculated that the chance of the correct chemicals coming together of their own accord to create life is 1 in 100 billion billion billion (and about 5 more billions). I've heard the argument that in an infinite universe, everything happens, but it's a bit far fetched for me. I've also heard the argument that energy cannot be created nor destroyed therefore there is no need for a God. But is energy intelligent? No. There must be some intelligent being out there who need not have been created because He has always existed. Just because puny, miserable humans cannot comprehend that, they assume it can't be true? I laugh at that...