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Old 10-23-2002, 01:22 PM   #34
Bardan the Slayer
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Join Date: August 16, 2002
Location: Newcastle, England
Age: 46
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Originally posted by Yorick:
quote:
Originally posted by Neb:
Very true. But some lives are really not worth replacing if they make the lives of others less pleasant. Personally I have little to no sympathy for the robber, even if he didn't pull a gun. In my opinion it's like this: If you break the law, you've put aside all of your own rights by violating the rights of others. Don't whine if you or your stuff gets hurt in some way, you've brought it on yourself.
Don't fundamental human rights override the laws of a nation, city or state?

Are we not arguing against a Nigerian woman being stoned to death for adultery? She broke the law and is being punished by the law.

Are we not against Chinese executing dissenters who break their laws in Tibet?

Human rights are paramount. Being killed for robbery is disgusting.
[/QUOTE]Weeeeeeeel, it kinda depends on the gun issue. If the guy stealing the car had a gun, then I believe that my basic human right to self protection allows me to take the pre-emptive move of killing him before he kills me. If he didn't have a gun? Much more muddied waters. Who is to say he wasn't going to steal the car, turn around and run the hunter guy over and kill him?

If a guy will steal your car, can you really trust him not to try and injure you with it once he has stolen it? Is it worth risking your life to see whether he's going to drive away form you, or over you?

The first case is clear cut - if he had a gun, he deserved to get killed. Yes, he *deserved* it, because he committed a crime while he was armed with a lethal weapon. The second case? More difficlt to decide.
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