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Old 10-07-2002, 04:13 PM   #37
Timber Loftis
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Join Date: July 11, 2002
Location: Chicago, IL
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I don't know what you think I called Jeffords in my hectic detail of the "3 kinds" of Vermonters, but it wasn't anything bad. I was simply stating that both "the good" and "the bad" ends of both the economic as well as the ideological scale in that State would IMO agree with Jeffords.

And if you think I'm trying to put down honest, hard working Vermonters, you're simply wrong. I was simply trying to define, in a mere sentence, three character types I see as representing the outside world's, and the Vermonters', view of Vermonters. You obviously know very little on this issue, and I'll leave it at that.

As for the problem you're ranting about and saying you want to solve, what is it exactly? You've been quite scattered on the issue. The original post seemed to define the problem as Jefford's desire to concentrate on or talk about problems. I thought you were just trying to slam Jeffords/ Dems/ and anyone else who says anything other than President Bush's sh*t smells like a bed of roses. So, I thought the goal you were seeking was to limit issues and NOT discuss things the current administration sucks at - or deflect the blame for those things. Come to think of it, are you a WhiteHouse staffer?

The only other big bitch I can see you having is that "Federal Income Tax" withholding line on your pay stub. How do you fix that? Simply lower taxes? If that's your solution, it shows a lack of even rudimentary socioeconomic understanding. Don't get me wrong, here. I do not deny that I hate every dollar taken from my payday - and I often has some choice things to say about where I see the money going. As well, I'll again agree with you on inefficiency in the government. But you define these broad problems, and then act like taking money from one program will fix everything, but you don't want to take any money from your precious defense budget. There is no logic in this. Just because National Defense is a NECESSITY, it does not logically follow that we allow an infinite amount of capital to be sucked in by it. I'll point out that there are other NECESSITIES our taxes pay for.

As for me not knowing anything about military spending, I have no idea what you're talking about. Are you trying to tell me there is no waste in military spending - no, wait, you're trying to tell me it's all the fault of Dems. Either way, excuse me while I proceed to ROFLMAO.

I try to stay politically unaffiliated, but you seem to push me there. So, I'll again point out, as most everyone can attest, we all had more money with the past administration, and with Democrat administrations in general for the past 50 years. Mr. President can keep his paltry refund check - I want him to come up with an idea to decrease unemployment.

Sometimes you add some interesting thoughts to the discussions herein. On this issue, however, you have simply wasted a lot of space and time on stream-of-consciousness rambling.

Jeffords was a bad target, my friend. As far as politicians go, he's got a lot of integrity. Even in his decision to leave the party, as most will attest. The only ones with bad things to say are staunch Republicans, who are obviously angered at losing the numbers game. It is no secret that Jeffords was a Vermont Republican, and Reps in Vermont are more liberal than Dems in most places, my friend. My favorite being, of course, my old neighbor in Tunbridge, Fred Tuttle.
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