10-07-2002, 02:24 PM
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Originally posted by Neb:
Cut some of the funding for the army and spend the money on schools and health care instead! Who's gonna invade the US, anyway? Canada? Mexico?
Military spending is actually not the cause of the problem. Again you are making the mistake of buying into the idea that the problem is a "money" issue. If you spend $45,000 for a Yugo, spending another $45,000 is not going to make it a BMW. The oproblem is they are wasting truely MASSIVE ammounts of money, there is out right theft, there is wide spread fraud and no small amount of ineptitude involved.
Do you truly believe the the US military ONLY protects the US from direct attack? Or do you advocate we become isolationists and desert all the nations and peoples of the world who actually depend on and desire our military presence. There is a rather wide spread stabilizing influence put forth by the US navy, would you wish us to tell everyone else to screw off, and disregaurd any other comittments? Oh by the way, Military budgets also fund a large portion of our intelligence efforts. Each Branch of the Military gathers quite a lot of data NSA is the clearing house/oversight, CIA handles things like direct spying, FBI the spying done within the US borders (ok officially they don't spy) and the Military is responsible for all the rest of the Intel.
Any invading force from overseas could easily be spotted and destroyed before it arrived, I should believe. So less guns and more books and doctors!
That's what I'd do, anyway, if I was in power in the US.
MagiK, I don't believe that it's purely corruption that's keeping funds stuck in the system, and if it is, then Jeffords is right anyway. Something has to be done. Whether it's allocating more funds or cleaning up the "clogs" in the financial system. His central point is true even if some of his other points can be debated.
Run the numbers X number of BILLIONS of Dollars divided by the number of schools. You might be shocked. Then there is the Billion dollar industry of Medicare and Medicade fraud. Yeah something needs to be done, but instead of doing anything about it Jeffords and the rest of the Capitol Hill gang act like a bunch of kids on the school yard and only trot out the issues when it is politicly expedient, once they get their votes, they then ignore the issue. It is NOT new. It has been going on as long as I have been alive. The problem is for me at least. It is the Dems who have one thought and one thought only...Take More Money from MagiK, to fix things. I repeat, throwing more money at it is not going to fix it. Usually Liberals are decrying the Republicans for throwing money at issues.
Personally I think that there's no doubt that Georgey is attacking Iraq purely to boost his own votes, to draw away attention from other problems and to get more oil. I can't see how anyone can doubt it, and I wouldn't really have that big a problem with it, if George and his supporters would just ADMIT it. Instead of rambling about how they're removing a dangerous dictator and defending the US. Sure, they're removing a dictator. Okay, so he might be a threat to the US. But that isn't George's primary motivation.
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I believe that from the start Iraq and half a dozen other countries were on the list of people we need to do something about before GW got into office. I also think he started talking about Iraq last year, not during this recent election cycle. So exactly how is he being disingenuous? I would also point out that the intel says that Iraq has stepped up its efforts in nuclear, biological and chemical weapons efforts and has access to Uranium out of Africa....should Bush wait till after election? what about if on election day they nuke washington with a man carried nuke? Who would you blame then? Ohh wait youw ould blame him for not stopping it sooner. So I see you putting him in a no win situation with your arguement. he is damned if he does, and doubley damned if he doesnt.
All in all Im just Happy I have access from work again [img]smile.gif[/img] WoooHoooo
[ 10-07-2002, 02:25 PM: Message edited by: MagiK ]
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