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Originally posted by khazadman:
yeah,but rokenn,you don't seem to realise that all these things have been done before by presidents(lincoln,wilson,and roosevelt) during wartime,and these measures were always rescinded when the war was over.
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Does that make it anymore right? I suppose by that logic the internment of Japanese-Americans in WWII was ok and we should fully support the same for Arab-Americans if the Administration decides that is the best thing to do.
Magik:
I have seen many articles over the last few months dealing with many of these issues. From CNN to NPR to O'Reily's No Spin show. The article I quoted was from the AP newswire, which IMO is a fairly good source of news.
Cerek:
There is a large difference between a peace protest and a bunch of sports fans celebrating a victory (or mourning a defeat). Back in the 80's I took part in many demonstrations and marches and they were all peaceful.
Morgan_Corbesant:
You are missing the whole point of what Freedom of Speech is. It is there so that we CAN say we think the government is going in the wrong direction without fear of reprisals from said government. Provided, as Magik said, that you do not go around breaking other laws in the process. It is there as the Supreme Court has ruled to protect even the most offensive of speech as well as the inoffensive. Once we start saying that this group or that can not state its opinion because they are political unpopular today, who knows who will be the next group to be silenced tomorrow?
Here is another food for thought item:
On one hand we have a person accused of planning to make a 'dirty bomb' on
uncorroborated information
On the other we have a
Florida doctor caught with a huge cache of weapons, bombs, anti-personal mines, and detailed attack plans for attacking local Muslim buildings.
One had full access to the legal system from the day he was detained, the other did not. One was armed to the teeth, the other was not. One was captured based on 'secret evidence', the other by police responding to a domestic disturbance call. One is Muslim, the other is not.
Remember the second greatest act of domestic terrorism was perpetrated by an ex-military white christian.
I guess my main point here is that if we focus so hard on denying rights to or subjugating certain ethnic/religious groups to special measures we do two things. We alienate people within those communities that may have valuable information and two we will miss the guy coming from the other direction with a truck bomb and a van full of weapons.