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Earthdog · 08-01-2002, 08:14 AM

Looks like youve done pretty well there Mouse.

I personally shy away from anything Onboard. I prefer a PCI slot sound card ect. If it goes bad you buy another one. IF onboard goes bad you might end up having to buy another Motherboard. Sound cards are alot cheaper

Depends on what the cost of the motherbaord is so I cant really say if its a bargain or not. Am glad youre getting a board with 5 PCI slots for exactly this reason.

Modem, get External. For security reasons they are much better than internal. If you keep the phone line plugged in (and most of us do) any time you arent home your computer can be dialed up and hacked, used as a tool in Denial of Service attacks, ect. Internal modems leave you vulnerable. Cant stress that enough. With External all you have to do is flick a switch and off she goes, safe and sound

MSI Geforce 4 ti 4200s have very loud fans. Loudest of any card on the market. Thats their only drawback. Benchmarking wise they are middle of the pack. Not bad.

GET THE 128 MEG VERSION!!!!!

Ill tell you why. The 64 meg cards have a faster clock speed. thats a fact. They will outperform the 128 meg versions to a certain point. BUT, my friend, AFTER that point the 128 meg versions SMOKE em.

Point in case: Doom 3 will run 80 megs worth of JUST TEXTURES. A 64 meg card simply CANNOT deal with that much data without taking a serious perfomance hit. A 128 meg card can run Doom 3 with ALL the detail set to its highest levels. A 64 meg card MUST have the detail tuned down in order to function without a noticable drop in frame rates.

My personal recommendation is the Asus V8420 Deluxe 128 meg (its a G4 ti 4200) unlike its other ti 4200 counterparts, it uses the same 3.3 nonasecond ram thats used in the faster 64 meg cousins, instead of 4.0 nanosecond ram like the otehr 128 meg cards.

You get a faster card with 128 meg of ram

not only that but Asus Deluxe versions come with ALL the hardware recommended by nVidia. They dont rips you off on the hardware side, unlike everybody else.

Other than that, I think you did really well [img]smile.gif[/img] I think you may be getting ripped off on the price, but it sounds like a nice unit.

http://pages.ebay.co.uk/services/buy...converter.html
I calculated it to over $2,000 dollars Australian. Thats high. You should at least have a monitor in the deal.

08-01-2002, 08:14 AM	#2
Earthdog Emerald Dragon Join Date: May 1, 2001 Location: melbourne victoria australia Age: 59 Posts: 960	Looks like youve done pretty well there Mouse. I personally shy away from anything Onboard. I prefer a PCI slot sound card ect. If it goes bad you buy another one. IF onboard goes bad you might end up having to buy another Motherboard. Sound cards are alot cheaper Depends on what the cost of the motherbaord is so I cant really say if its a bargain or not. Am glad youre getting a board with 5 PCI slots for exactly this reason. Modem, get External. For security reasons they are much better than internal. If you keep the phone line plugged in (and most of us do) any time you arent home your computer can be dialed up and hacked, used as a tool in Denial of Service attacks, ect. Internal modems leave you vulnerable. Cant stress that enough. With External all you have to do is flick a switch and off she goes, safe and sound MSI Geforce 4 ti 4200s have very loud fans. Loudest of any card on the market. Thats their only drawback. Benchmarking wise they are middle of the pack. Not bad. GET THE 128 MEG VERSION!!!!! Ill tell you why. The 64 meg cards have a faster clock speed. thats a fact. They will outperform the 128 meg versions to a certain point. BUT, my friend, AFTER that point the 128 meg versions SMOKE em. Point in case: Doom 3 will run 80 megs worth of JUST TEXTURES. A 64 meg card simply CANNOT deal with that much data without taking a serious perfomance hit. A 128 meg card can run Doom 3 with ALL the detail set to its highest levels. A 64 meg card MUST have the detail tuned down in order to function without a noticable drop in frame rates. My personal recommendation is the Asus V8420 Deluxe 128 meg (its a G4 ti 4200) unlike its other ti 4200 counterparts, it uses the same 3.3 nonasecond ram thats used in the faster 64 meg cousins, instead of 4.0 nanosecond ram like the otehr 128 meg cards. You get a faster card with 128 meg of ram not only that but Asus Deluxe versions come with ALL the hardware recommended by nVidia. They dont rips you off on the hardware side, unlike everybody else. Other than that, I think you did really well [img]smile.gif[/img] I think you may be getting ripped off on the price, but it sounds like a nice unit. http://pages.ebay.co.uk/services/buy...converter.html I calculated it to over $2,000 dollars Australian. Thats high. You should at least have a monitor in the deal. __________________ THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!!!