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flibulzbuth · 07-16-2002, 12:53 AM

The real problem is that these laws do not really help the fight against domestic terrorism. If the police (or FBI, CIA...) has enough knowledge identifying a terrorist, these new laws don't really help. It's just good for racial and political profiling in a mcarthiish way... bolstered by the constent threatening of the population (they'll blow the statue of Liberty... yeah right! as if any terrorist gives a damn about the statue of liberty...)

Even worst, these new laws haven't helped fighting terrorism, but local dissidence. These laws were written long before 9-11. Since Seattle and other such events, the gvt and their supporting lobbies (or better, the lobbies and their supporting gvt) need more muscle and threat to fight against public opposition which scale has been growing alarmingly fast.

More or less, the same laws have been passed in Canada after 9-11, thanks to right (liberals) and far-right (reform party). These laws have institutionalized repressive police practices that were usual, but nonetheless not legal. By that i mean: arbitrary imprisonment of manifesting people, not allowing them to access lawyers, unnecessary use of violence and abusing the definition of a "dangerous mob"/"unlawful assembly" (an assembly is a group of 4 or more people).

07-16-2002, 12:53 AM	#27
flibulzbuth Drow Warrior Join Date: April 6, 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 254	The real problem is that these laws do not really help the fight against domestic terrorism. If the police (or FBI, CIA...) has enough knowledge identifying a terrorist, these new laws don't really help. It's just good for racial and political profiling in a mcarthiish way... bolstered by the constent threatening of the population (they'll blow the statue of Liberty... yeah right! as if any terrorist gives a damn about the statue of liberty...) Even worst, these new laws haven't helped fighting terrorism, but local dissidence. These laws were written long before 9-11. Since Seattle and other such events, the gvt and their supporting lobbies (or better, the lobbies and their supporting gvt) need more muscle and threat to fight against public opposition which scale has been growing alarmingly fast. More or less, the same laws have been passed in Canada after 9-11, thanks to right (liberals) and far-right (reform party). These laws have institutionalized repressive police practices that were usual, but nonetheless not legal. By that i mean: arbitrary imprisonment of manifesting people, not allowing them to access lawyers, unnecessary use of violence and abusing the definition of a "dangerous mob"/"unlawful assembly" (an assembly is a group of 4 or more people). __________________ Boo for president!