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Old 06-19-2002, 01:54 PM   #73
Yorick
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Originally posted by theifprowess:
IMO

i believe in myself i do not believe there ever was a god nor will there ever be a god. can god die? according to religion no he cant. but according to science all thing have an expected life time. there is no VIRGIN mary just some women if any that didnt want daddy to know she was messin with one of the sheep herders. science has proven that people can not have an emaculate conception. only asexually animals such as some frogs have the ability to birth on their own. and thats because it is proven that they have both sex organs.(now hypothetically per say if miss mary did have a asexually child, her and the baby would have been burned as witches for herecy and the ability to produce babies unnaturally). back then mentality speaking there.

religion i feel is what brings disorder and chaos to this world. its seperates people on beliefs and biases. people do not have faith in themselves. they put faith and belief above themselves. does a man catch a football and bring it into the endzone because god helped him or willed him? no. he has his own individual talents he fails to see himself.

and if it werent for religion most if not all wars in the world would have never happened or occured. men have this sense that since we have the inept ability to understand and to learn more than the common animal does that makes us better. we were choosen for a higher purpose. god must have choose us to preach his name.

it takes a few intelligent people to show the rest of the "dumb" world that they are wrong. and time and time again these smart people have proven the disproved. the world is not FLAT the sun or shining ball in the sky doesnt circle us but we circle it. electricity and or lightning isnt the hand of "god" smitting man for being sinnful but charged electrons and magnetism. the ground doesnt shake because god is mad at fellow man but because of shifting in techtonic plates.

we are animals. we dont like to think of ourselves as animals cause we use more of our brain and our ability to think is enhanced.women bitch at men that men are dogs. well i am proud to say like every other male ANIMAL out there that it is our male instincts that drive us to sleep arround or in animallistic sence breed. it is a law of nature that male animals spread their seed not for fun but for the assurance of the survival of their species. we just somehow make fun of it.

do you think if there was a god he would have willed man to be as destructive as he is?

i know not all religions beleive in a god per say but a man of great influence. hell allah has successfully got an entire race of people to believe that eating pork is dirty cause a pig eats its own sh*t. they also believe that if they die for a good cause they get to goto paradise and are blessed with 70 virgins. hell maybe the families of those victims of the twin towers attacks will feel better knowing that the men that hijacked those planes went to a better place cause allah willed it.

hell i find it funny that the world still holds a grudge against the jews. because they were the ones that according to history killed jesus christ. now did every jewish man and women kill jesus christ. or did one man of certain religious pretext kill jesus. how would the world respond if jesus was not killed by jewish descent rather christian.not possible right? why would we kill our own kindred? yet we do it constantly in the streets of our cities.

goto prison and ask every cellmate if they believe in god. if they do why would they commit crimes against humanity like that if they are in touch with religion like that. people who do not beleive there is a god and or higher person believe in their self respecting abilities and see people for what they are. ask those same people in prison and you will find almost not one of them does not believe in god.

a person who doesnt believe in god has a better sense of what is right and what is wrong. they arent as hell bent and destructive and someone who does believe in god.in the end it wont be the people who dont believe in god that brings this world down but the very people who do believe in god that will destroy this earth.

thats why i would pick science over religion science can prove it. religion you have to believe in it. and i already believe in myself and my abilities to live out my life as the days go by.

one last thing to note.did you pick your religion or did your parents bring you into it ? if so say if you were catholic, would your parents get upset if you converted to jewdism or buddist? why or why not?
The Bible says the world is round. Scientists and mariners of the day said the world was flat.

Your statement about most of the wars never happening is ure speculation. You provide no facts to suport such a generalised statement.

I have detailed before the number of Singaporean Buddhists I witnessed convert to Christianity in one night, (1756) and that Children are beaten and kicked out of home when they leave Buddhism for Christ. This was verified by Lifetime, a Singaporean here.

Also, who holds prejudice against Jews? I don't know any Christians that do. Jesus was a Jew. The early church consisted almost entirely of Jews. I have Messianic Jewish friends in my church. I work for Jews. I have been mistaken for a Jew here in New York.

"In Christ there is no Jew nor Gentile"

Don't know where you're getting your information.

Regarding the twin towers everyone seems to use that to justify their own agenda. Those who want to criticise America use it as proof that America caused the attack. Now here you are citing religion is the cause. Well which is it?

There are seven million Muslims in the United Staes. Are they all attacking Churches and Synagogues? Is Indonesia, the largest Islamic nation attacking Australia, a sport deifying nation for glorifying human achievement? You are talking about minoritys. Wahabism, the strand the highjackers followed is an extremist interpretation of Islam.

But why am I defending Islam? Islam is totally different to Christianity. How can you lump opposite beliefs into the one basket?

Do we do this with political ideologies?

Oh yes, the Democrats and the Nazis are both responsible for World War II. Heck, both the Capitalists and Greenies are responsible for the degradation of the planet. And the Monarchist English and Republican Americans are both responsible for the revolution.

Or are they?

So regarding wars, was the Falklands based on religion? Was Genghis Khan a religious evangelist? Did the English want to incite the boxer rebellion in China because they loved Christ? Did Hussein invade Kuwait because Allah told him to? Did the Lombards invde Italy because they wanted to get a good view of the Vatican? Did Spain invade South America to convert everyone or to GET THE SILVER THERE.
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