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Old 06-16-2002, 07:07 PM   #15
Yorick
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Originally posted by The Hunter of Jahanna:
Science is science and religeon is religeon. The difference isnt in the proof but in the people. On the side of science you have people like Stephen Hawkings and Carl Sagan. They say the earth does this and numbers do that and and it is all based on probability and theory.If you can prove otherwise and break scientific rules then do it. On the other side is religeon, there you have Pat Robertson, Osama Bin Laden , and Aeriel Sharon who say the earth is this way because god made it that way. If you dont believe it then you will suffer and burn for eternity. Notice the difference?
Or, on one hand you have C.S.Lewis, Bishop Desmond Tutu, Mother Theresa and Bono, and on the other hand you have Oppenheimer, Einstein and the gang who invented the nuclear bomb.

Way to go science. Blow the place up.

But nevermind. I'm sure all the billions of dollars spent on SETI programs to prove we are not alone (when all one has to do is pray.... ) wouldn't have been needed for feeding the hungry, clothing the poor or healing the sick at all. Would it?

Also, a person is defined by more than just their religion. In bringing up Osama and Ariel, we have an example of a spoilt son of an Oil Tycoon, and a Politicial leader.

So we could say that spoilt children of oil tycoons and Politicial leaders cause wars couldn't we? Certainly Oil was the reason that Iraq invaded Kuwait. And politicial leaders?

Bush, Hitler, Stalin, Churchill, Thatcher, Bush II, Breshnev, Julius Caeser, Alexander, Hussein, Papa Doc Duvalier, Pinochet.....

Need I go on?

The myth is that Science and Religion are polar opposites.

Religion uses science, and science could use more religion.

Religion uses science?

From Mirriam Webster:
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Main Entry: sci·ence
Pronunciation: 'sI-&n(t)s
Function: noun

Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French, from Latin scientia, from scient-, sciens having knowledge, from present participle of scire to know; probably akin to Sanskrit chyati he cuts off, Latin scindere to split -- more at SHED
Date: 14th century

1 : the state of knowing : knowledge as distinguished from ignorance or misunderstanding

2 a : a department of systematized knowledge as an object of study {the science of theology} b : something (as a sport or technique) that may be studied or learned like systematized knowledge {have it down to a science}

3 a : knowledge or a system of knowledge covering general truths or the operation of general laws especially as obtained and tested through scientific method b : such knowledge or such a system of knowledge concerned with the physical world and its phenomena : NATURAL SCIENCE

4 : a system or method reconciling practical ends with scientific laws {culinary science}

5 capitalized : CHRISTIAN SCIENCE
Theology itself IS a science! [img]smile.gif[/img]

Science could use religion? Religions provide moral codes. Science without morals?
Unconsciousable Nazi experimentation
Cloning humans for body parts
Nuclear testing destroying the earth

Science without morals places the pursuit of knowledge itself as a religion rather than care for the race.

[ 06-16-2002, 07:12 PM: Message edited by: Yorick ]
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