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Old 06-10-2002, 11:54 AM   #31
Yorick
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Originally posted by Donut:
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Originally posted by Yorick:
And as is the Maori nation. They do, as I said, have a treaty with the Queen.

What is race other than a nationality developed and refined over a longer period?

But the British nation is made up of a multitude of races and will never be one distinct race.

The word 'nation' is used to denote a Nation State when describing sports teams.
[/QUOTE]Except with the Welsh, and Scottish footy teams yes? Or are these now nations of their own right? [img]smile.gif[/img]

England are a nation of conquest and reconquest, with many nationalities and races mixed in. With nations like the Souix which were monoracial, there isn't much distinction between race and nationality.

See also the Japanese. Race or nationality or both? The Mongolians of outer and inner Mongolia are in the same boat. How about the Finns. Of Finno-Ugric stock, and a nation in their own right.

The Jewish and Romanie (Gypsie) peoples have a degree of nationhood that is unreliant on borders, and defined by their race. There are Jews from many races. Slavics, Teutonics, Negroid. Yet each is Jewish.

The lines blur.
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