Well I did it, and it was a tough fight. The trick again is to summon loads of monsters to keep them busy - though not for long the eat through them - whilst you pound on them and whittle away with arrows/magic.
If you want to know what they have on them...(minor spoiler)
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it's sod all! The only things you can get are from the chests in the room they guard (Kiel's room I think). Even then, they're not all that great. Unless of course you want to go beserk with a +3 morningstar.
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Making running away an art form