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Old 11-03-2002, 04:23 PM   #16
Alson
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Join Date: December 14, 2001
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Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern:
]A little nitpick about Spike Traps. They do not affect everybody. The blue guardians in Watcher's Keep level 5 are immuned to them.
Yea, that was supposed to be in.
Will reword.

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On this page, Liches can and will cast on you with direct-damage spells even if you are totally invisible. This applies to other enemies that can see through invisibility.
Are you 100% sure about this?
I'm quite sure they can't.
The only way to cast a spell on a shimering target is ForceSpell(), which most liches don't use.

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ADD] The website seems leery of having high resistances, judging from the way it described the various Protection from ~~ spells, but resistances should not be underestimated, and should be highly embraced at all times. Healing from the enemy is a wonderful power tactic, and there is no problem with spell disruption because you can just choose to cast when the enemy is not casting. Remember, if they cannot hurt you, they cannot kill you.
That's because me and Xyx are quite heavy on the offensive playing style.
Littiz is the one that tries to balance it out. [img]smile.gif[/img]
We believe that resistances are usually irrelevent - if they can't see you (aka Mislead(TM)), they can't kill you. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

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Pierce Shield was a bit of misinformation as well. It is not a RRoR+Weaker Lower Resistance, but a Secret Word+Lower Resistance. At level 20, both LR and PS lowers the enemy's Magic Resistance by 30%. 3 of these in a Chain Contingency is extremely scary to an enemy Mage. Take out one and throw in a RRoR if the target has Spell Trap.
Dundee, you already know my PoV about spell protections and the like.
I learnt it from Xyx.

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Protection from Energy
Another very sad spell for its level. Even less effective than its cheaper brothers that at least provide complete resistance. Don't go anywhere near this spell.
I wholely disagree with this. 75% resistance to Fire/Cold/Electricity/Acid/Magic Damage is not to be sniffed at. Combine with the Belt of Inertial Barrier and you heal from Magic Missile/Skull Trap/ADHW. Combine with other equipment, and you gain immunity and healing when possible. This spell should not be underestimated.[/QUOTE]Name 10 enemy mages in a non moded game that use Skull Trap or ADHW.
And MM is usually the last spell in the Mages script.
Littiz is a big fun of this spell, though - maybe we can be slightly less harsh about it.

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Finger of Death
Save-or-else suffer some minor damage anyway. Go for Polymorph Other if you like insta-kill save-or-else spells, go for Magic Missile if you like damage spells. Either way, save your precious level 7 slots for something good.
He's kidding right? I was slaying Fire Giants and Dragons in ToB with this spell. They key here is Greater Malison.[/QUOTE]IMO, FoD is pathetic.
Nature's Beauty is sorta like an Area of Affect FoD for Druids (Die, or be Blinded and THEN die), and if you're facing Fire Giants, your cleric should have at least one HLA anyway. Deva will slaughter a Fire Giant anyday, and will do soooo much more.

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The Skeleton Warrior is 90% magic resistant and therefore very effective against spellcasters and Mind Flayers, and allows you to cast area damage spells at the creatures they are engaged with.
Your friend does know that "even if your summon does not get hurt, it will go hostile", right?[/QUOTE]I havn't, either. Are you sure?
I will test it, and if you're right, we'll reword.

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Feeblemind
Mediocre save-or-else spell. Leaves one enemy standing around drooling for the rest of the battle, but Polymorph Other already did something like that and Domination does something much more useful.
Mediocre my a**. [img]tongue.gif[/img] Feeblemind is the reason why I managed to kill Abazigal with a Dispel Magic. It has a -2 save penalty, combine with Greater Malison for a -6 penalty. Throw in Doom for a -8 penalty.[/QUOTE]Malison and Doom helps any spell, so it's not an example.
And the cheesy use of it is mentioned.

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Protection from Acid
Worthless. Will still not protect you from round-to-round spell disruption from Melf's Acid Arrow. Pretty sad spell for level 6.
Level 5 you mean. [/QUOTE]Thanks. As i said - Xyx hates Typos. [img]smile.gif[/img]

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Spell Immunity
~~ Versatile spell, may come in handy sometimes. Just don't hold your breath.
Urm... rightttt... SI is one of the best protection spells in the game. I laugh at Kangaxx and all other Liches because of this spell.[/QUOTE]I wholly agree - you know how much i like SI.
I talked to Xyx about it many times, but it's HIS guide, after all.
He has the final word, and he doesn't like it as much as we do.
A matter of style, i guess.

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I will continue tomorrow.
Can't wait. [img]tongue.gif[/img]
Thanks for the reply. I was waiting to hear from you.
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