[sageridder]

An issue I belive has not been addressed (many good ones have) is that the influx of illegals has efectivly outsourced many american jobs that could not be without them,in that the jobs actually have to be proformed here.Industries like the service industry (custodians and such),construction of buildings here, and farming, now have a work force willing to accept wages that are so low that if it were not for the illegals that these industries would be forced to cut thier profit margins or executive salaries to levels that would allow them to offer a realistic living wage to employees.Thier acceptance of these wages (often under the table)only makes companies richer while pushing the poorest here to accept diminshing returns for thier work efforts.This could even promote the the idea that "why should i go work for McDonalds money when i can make 10x that stealing or selling dope?" I actually do like most of the people I've personally meet that have immergrated here, but the sheer volume of illegals only helps to water down the economic progress we have made.(Well at least for the little man big buisness loves a new group to exploit)