[Illumina Drathiran'ar]

Originally posted by Sir Degrader: quote: Originally posted by Zebodog: quote: Originally posted by Sir Degrader: Well, you should have expected this then: If torture could reveal the name, age, location and appearence of the man who would spread smallpox on the New York Subway, would you condone it?

No, I wouldn't. By condoning and using torture (even a little bit, or just for those extreme cases) you are saying the ends justifies the means. [/QUOTE]Sorry to piss on your parade, but it does. False logic of terrorism my ass, terrorism works, and both us know it. The only reason it works is because of craven cowards not willing to quench the flame entirely. If you break a human being to such a degree that he cannot resist anymore, then we will have won. If we can break these invididuals, and obtain information in the process, then we will have gained the upper hand. [/QUOTE]At what cost? Sure, we "gain the upper hand", but we become monsters in the process. That is not a price I'm willing to pay, or to have paid in my name.