The Dreadnoks 
Join Date: September 27, 2001
Location: Orlando, FL
Age: 62
Posts: 3,608
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Originally posted by Melcheor:
quote: Originally posted by Felix The Assassin:
Hmm, very interesting. Penny ante words and nickel phrases to quantify one's thesis. This path must then lead to a scholar with no real world application. Study through the written word has no dimension to it. There is no meaning, no touch, smell, grasp, only a one sided replay of a one sided writing. How horrid!
The inability to grasp, combined with educational potential, could lead to the probability of exceeding one's capabilities, for that has been experienced as well. But to lay out excuses on how and why people can or cannot become something, is a true lack of real experience, something that can never be taught or learned from a school house!
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Felix, you must see that, whilst your first hand experience of human nature at its worst gives you a unique perspective, it has also formed a sterotypical view, based only on the events you have whitnessed. We, who do not have that experience, cannot know what some people are capable of, but that knowledge does not sour our opinion of the majority.
Your words may have meaning to you, but of all the opinions on this forum, yours seem the most one sided. Your derision of the adverts is understandable, given your experience, but can you not appreciate the other side of the argument? That it is not 9/11 vs other problems, but that it is a comparison between the problems of two groups, who are in the majority innocents, illustrating the inbalance in public opinion, and that the outcry only goes to show that the illustration is a painfully effective one.
For me the main problem with the adverts has just become apparent. It shows people in need on the streets of new york. The hungry, homeless and HIV positive people in *our* western society, motly asked for it as Felix said. I don't give to beggars because they will probably spend anything I give on drink and if they had a mind they would be on welfare with a council home. The same is *not* true for those in societies where, even if you have the will, there is not always the way, where corruption and natural disasters make even the most hard working and moral people into charity cases. The adverts portray the former rather than the latter. This is just a view, but ist seems to me that this could be where some of the criticism comes from. [/QUOTE] Yes, I can see the other side. However, I have not always been a sterotypical soldier. I have seen things from within as well. That and views of that are not for discussion, but I will say. It is the human nature, and not the society, the way, religion, moral values, or the lack there of, that allow things that you cannot grasp, because there are no 'first hand' reporters there to 'show' the free world what can and will transpire with or without the aid of a superior force present. For it is the way of the man! Biased as it may be, It surely is not sterotypical.
A person can commit an act of wrong doing. Some could say it's evil, others might not think twice at all about it. But somebody somewhere will say it's sterotypical. When in all reality it falls right back to the point of the person. I judge a man by his actions, not the actions of others, but his actions alone. When the lives of others are at stake, one can only believe what is physically seen, said, or heard. And that can only be taught in the enviormental theater of operations.
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