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Originally posted by Felix The Assassin:
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Originally posted by Grojlach:
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Originally posted by Felix The Assassin:
A person with HIV did something (for the majority) to become infected with the virus.
A person that is hungry, has not attempted to grow a garden, fish, or hunt the wild critters that go well with garden fresh potatoes.
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Those are really, really ignorant statements. Seriously, what the hell? [/QUOTE]Why? How does it make YOU feel? Does it strike a chord? I have patrolled the streets of Kosovo, I have been shot at, and returned fire in many places other than Iraq. I have walked the streets of El Paso, TX. So tell me, Oh wise one what do my first hand experiences of people, poverty, and the dying not have to do with this political scam? I have seen an (insert what you like, but it must be politically correct) kill a (the other politically correct term) because he raised a 'pig' to feed his family. I have seen fertile ground sit idle. I have seen sex in the streets and no protection used. I have shared a bottle with a 'bum' to experience life without shelter. He could have shelter, but 'he' choose to weather the storm. Others could have shelter too, but it would call for that four letter word, AKA: WORK.
The key here is WILL where there is will, there is a way. However, I have seen with my own two eyes, many ways, but not a single will!
If you want to cry foul, go forth an experience life to it's fullest, then come back full circle and we shall quantify your findings! [/QUOTE]
...And as we all know, anecdotal evidence automatically beats common logic and actual factual knowledge - and allows you to say whatever the hell you want to say to drive home a certain point, in whatever way you want to say it; even at the expense of sounding like a jerk in the process. So those millions upon millions of people in, say, Ethiopia or India dying of hunger are just lazy? Ever heard of overpopulation, ruined harvests, natural disasters, wars, or even simply climate and weather conditions playing a role in possible cases of hunger?
As for Aids, people getting raped in South Africa are just asking for it? Careless, unhygienic blood transfusions spreading aids is the patient's fault? Hey, and did you know Aids could get carried over to newborn babies as well, in 15 to 30% of all cases, with the risk getting higher when breastfeeding? Those babies had it coming as well, right?
And yes, nice newsflash there that people in poverty and desperation could do horrible, horrible things. The New Orleans disaster fallout in itself demonstrates that clearly, but I was aware of that beforehand as well. Just that I didn't see it with my own eyes doesn't automatically invalidate anything I have to say by default, however.
I'm sure you've seen some awful things, and without a doubt in those anecdotal cases those people had it coming just like you said, but anecdotal evidence should never cloud your judgment in the face of other known and more prevalent causes for aforementioned tragedies. For someone as experienced in life as you are, reading a newspaper every once and awhile shouldn't be that much of a problem, right?
[ 09-20-2005, 03:15 AM: Message edited by: Grojlach ]