[Cerek the Barbaric]

Originally posted by Rokenn: Enough with the off-topic posts. If you want to dicuss my 'hypocrasy' in posting an article (nursing mother == terrorist?) that effectively pointed out it's mis-representation within itself please take it to PM's. If you want to discuss the information posted in this thread feel free.

I did discuss the information posted in this thread. My specific comments were.....

Originally posted by Cerek the Barbaric: I agree now (as I did in my original post here) that both sides of the argument should be presented. While I haven't read the original article by Kamiya yet, I will take you at your word that the "right wing attack dogs" took a portion of his article out of context and reacted to that. I agree with you and Grojlach both that it was wrong for them to do that. I do like to watch the O'Reilly Factor from time to time because he won't allow the guests on there to "spin" any BS rhetoric about their motives. But I also agree he can be very "heavy handed" at times too, and I don't like that. He should be able to "shoot down" his opponent's arguments without having to "shout down" his opponents themselves. I firmly believe in being courteous to the each side and allowing both sides equal opportunity to present their case. And - even though I'm a right-wing conservative myself - I can't listen to Rush Limbaugh for more than 30 seconds without getting a headache.

I also explained why I felt the other article was relevant to this discussion. Using another thread to illustrate a point is not "off-topic" in my opinion. Of course, you're welcome to disagree with that reasoning.

As for your "hypocrisy", I did not say you were a hypocrit and I honostly did not mean to imply it either. In fact, I didn't even remember that YOU were the one who posted the "Nursing Mother" article until I went back to look at the thread. I was going to use that thread as an "offsetting illustration" in this thread anyway. I admit that I did find it ironic that you were the one who posted the article, and I meant to post a smiley in my original post to show that I found that coincidence more humorous than hypocritical.

But I didn't include the smiley and I realize that changes the "tone" of my opening post...so I apologize for that omission and the resulting implication.

Originally posted by Rokenn: PS if you carefully check my 'offending' thread you will notice a lightheart laughing smilely, denoting that I did not take the article that seriously, though it is an intesting study in perspective (ala Rashomon)

I did see the smiley in your other thread, so I realized you felt it was a fair joke. But I also pointed out that my primary complaint with the article was the real "anti-American" sentiment this "journalistic joke" generated.

I think your example of the film Rashomon is very relevant. I admit I was upset with the larger issues and sentiment raised by an article that seemed to be written "tongue-in-cheek". By the same token, you and Grojlach were very upset by an article that I didn't take very seriously - because the "slanted view" was obvious in it as well (even though I didn't realize how badly out of context Kamiya's comments had been taken).

As you say, it's all a matter of perspective.