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Originally posted by John D Harris: Quote: Originally posted by Azred: Quote: Originally posted by MagiK: Is the "Israel controlling the USA" thing connected with the Illuminati? or is there some other secret order behind this chaos?

No, that would be the Elders of Zion, a "sister" of the Illuminati. Sometimes their goals are in alignment; sometimes not.

Unfortunately, the Elders are not in control of America; that would be the Bavarian Illuminati, one of the original conspiracies. The Freemasons, long a front of the Bavarians, established the United States as a base from which to bring about a worldwide hegemony based on economic and, secondarily, intellectual freedom. [img]graemlins/petard.gif[/img] [/QUOTE]Hold it there I thought it was the "Knights Templar" along with the Trilateral Commission/Center for Foriegn Realtions that was responsible for the world's conspiracies. Now your telling me its the Barvarian Illuminatei/Freemasons. "Dadgomit" I've got 25 years of infiltrationing the wrong groups. "Hale" I'll have to learn a new hand shake I bet.[/QUOTE]So if you peel back the skin of Bush what is he? Jewish or a alien?

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