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Originally posted by Iron_Ranger:
'initial war plans had failed'. Failed usally indicates you are losing at something correct?
Initial war plans have not failed.
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While you may disagree with Arnett's words, in no way do they imply "losing the war". You're ascribing something to him he never said... Let's just assume he meant 'losing a battle', even though that description is even far too strong for his words.
But even then, 'losing a battle' doesn't automatically imply "losing a war"; a wisdom which rang true in practically every major war in Earth's past and which is also very popular as an Ultimate Wisdom in cheesy war movies. You're looking too much behind all of it.
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Originally posted by Iron_Ranger:
There arent all that many (unless you count far leftist) articals that say, simply we are losing the war. But its more of the spin news agencys put on it. Like 'Fierce Fire Fighting outside of Basra' and such. That implys we are struggling a great deal with the war in Iraq.
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Erm... What's wrong with a headline like 'Fierce Fire Fighting outside of Basra'?
Are you in any way implying that there weren't any fire fights, but that the real headline should have been something along the lines of 'Iraqi Forces Drop All Of Their Weapons At The Sight of US Soldiers, They All Had Some Ice-Cream, Sang The American National Anthem With A Lump In Their Throats And Lived Happily Ever After'?
I really fail to see what's wrong with the headline you mentioned. Maybe on the whole the Iraqi soldiers are no match for the US troops, but claiming that there couldn't have been any fierce* resistance and fire fights for whatever reason you have in mind is a very strange thing to do, considering the facts.
* And mind you, 'fierce' is subjective; if the previous 9 battles hardly involved any fire-fighting, standards for using the adjective could have been lowered for the tenth battle (just in case you think that "fierce" shouldn't be used when there aren't at least a certain number of casualties or hours spent on the battlefield).
[ 04-03-2003, 05:11 AM: Message edited by: Grojlach ]