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Originally posted by Animal:
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Originally posted by Mordenheim:
"but they are fighting to maintain their right to believe in Islam, something that, by your own words, would be taken from them in a westernised culture"
I must have speed read past this. This is the most insane thing I have read yet by anyone on any forum.
I bet we have more people following Islam then France, Russia, Canada and Germany put together. You are seriously mixing thing's up here. The RADICAL form of OPPRESIVE islam would not be allowed in ANY civilized country. You are free to practice ANY religion in the United States you wish. You can even follow Satanism if you wish as long as NO ONE is hurt and no law is broken. The government here has no right to stop you from practicing you're faith including Islam.
man o man.......
I know people in Canada are not that naive. I meet them all the time down here in florida. I mean what the? You live in a westernised culture. What are you talking about?
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Naive? People in Canada? Exactly what is your point here.
During my tenure here in the war forum, I have had seem heated debates with various different people, but none have gotten to me quite like this.
Is the United States that perfect that they can decide for the rest of the world what they can and cannot do? You talk about the treatment of women in Iraq. I ask you this...do you know exactly how many women are beaten each day in the US or Canada or Britain or Germany or France, or any western culture because the men have the freedom to go out to the bar and get pissed each night, come home and beat the living crap out of their girlfriends or wives?
Before the US, or any other nation for that matter starts passing judgement, they need to take a long hard look at their own culture. How many women in the United States are being beaten tonight?
We have no right, NO RIGHT, to pass judgement on Iraq, when we are no better than they are.[/QUOTE]Oh give me a freaking break Animal. We have law's against not that allow you to beat you're wife or child. We have centers for anger control and we do EVERYTHING possible to prevent it. We have shelters for abused women and children to try to hide at. We have program after program. Do not try that here. You can not stop abuse totally but we damn sure try. Our culture does not in ANY way condone such behavior. Find another nation that tries harder to stop abusive behavior. Give me a break.
It is a big difference from SANCTIONED, LEGAL, RELIGIOUS, allowance of. A man has to hope his wife don't call the police here. A woman in Iraq and other radical Islamic countries are lucky if they do not get raped by their husband AND police. Rape is a VERY serious crime here. It will ruin you're life. It should and I am glad we take it very serious.
To even compare makes me sick. If you can not see the vast difference of ILLEGAL abuse and SANCTIONED/RELIGIOUS right to make you're wife a slave then... friend I wonder if there is ANY hope