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It seems to me that they aren't important to you because of who they are. This argument doesn't help your position. It makes you seem discriminatory against any who oppose your view.
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It's not discriminatory. Don't close your eyes cause it serves your purpose. You are clever enough to know that some countries have more weight by their population, military and economic power. I was not being discriminatory at all.
In time of war, yes, support of Russia or France or Canada IS more important than support of Eritrea. And you know it.
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Either all nations have an equal voice or they don't? Yes the P5 of the SC are the only one's with VETOs, but if they are the only ones that matter, then why bother with the UN at all.
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Cause having the majority with you and a veto against you is way more different than not having the majority + a veto. I know it, you know it, Bush knew it and that's why he didn't even bother.
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Either they count or they don't.
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In a military action, money and military power are needed. So yeah, see above, some countries count more than others.
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You like to talk about the political pressure exerted by the US
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I didnt talk about that at all. I talked about countries that NEED support of the US for various reasons. Countries for which political pressures was not needed.
Political pressure exist on both side and they're part of the diplomatic process.
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Maybe so, but not as badly as Chirac, and Bush was quite a bit more diplomatic throughout the process.
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Bush was diplomatic ? Manicheist (good vs evil) propaganda is diplomatic for you ?
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Bush had a job to do, and he's doing it.
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No offense intended but that sounds like an awful mix between Rambo and Joan of Arc, like a big cliché.
Edit : That goes very well with "The game is over" kind of statement though.
[ 03-26-2003, 02:38 PM: Message edited by: Masklinn ]