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Old 03-20-2003, 09:11 AM   #5
Ronn_Bman
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Originally posted by Avatar:

A * BANG *! No one wants to end their political career on a quiet footing. Uneventful, just, peaceful, uncharismatic, ruler is not what you want.

Blair is at the end of his reign. I'll be damned if it's not Bush's end. Chirac is at an end too along with the German Chancellor.
These four air the strongest and stubbonest opinions in the growing debate over Iraq?

Blair will come out of this fine if this way doesn't become a protracted bloodbath, and you may think Bush is at the end of his rope, but the American people don't think so. To say they want to go out with a "bang" is not a substantive argument, it's rhetoric.

I'm also not sure how Schroeder and Chirac will be adversely effected by supporting the views of their people. Yes the politics that caused their anti-action policy regarding Iraq may not be the same reasoning behind their public's opposition to such action, but in the end, their public's position was championed by them.


And why not? So would you! If you are the French, your oil companies have invested billion in the past years since 1991 to get as much legal oil as possible out of poverty stricken Iraq. If US forces erect a new government, all your deals are bye bye.

On the other hand, Bush is using this to fuel his election. Patriotic wars win votes, oil deals for the next 50 years in Iraq can justify any war. This will secure all future economy in the US. Oil supply form 1/5 of the world's reserves. It also splits the opposing Europeans right down the middle. With France and Germany loosing allies like Spain and Britain.

This is so untrue. Bush is not using this to fuel his election. That is just to easy and excuse. Oppose him if you will, but please don't stoop to something as unreasonable as that to justify it.

This is not about oil, you don't go to war for oil in a territory you don't intend to keep, if for no other reason than it is inefficient. It is much cheaper to buy oil. We bought it before, we buy it now, and we'll buy it in the future. The French and Russian oil contracts will be honored per international law. This is not about oil, this is about weapons of mass destruction. Those weapons will be found, and then people who said they didn't exist will say they could have been removed another way or that the US "planted" the stuff, but it will be found, and it will be destroyed.


Don't let the fact that you dislike America or Bush illude you from the goodness for Iraq.

I think you are saying Iraq will benefit and be better off in the long run, and on that point we agree. Hopefully people won't let their dislike of the Bush administration cloud their view of the good that will come to the Iraqi people.
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